You are supposed to get greater distance with the 180 than the past integrated 
SM because of their new floating antenna design.  Has anyone tested that out?

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
[email protected]

> On Dec 3, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I think they're expecting you to use Force180 for nearby customers and 
> Force200 for farther customers...
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Oh wow…    maybe I am missing something.  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> If the KP dish with standard SM does SM dB + 9 dB, and the Force 180 (no 
>> reflector) does standard SM + 3db, did we just lose 6dB of gain (NET) if we 
>> can’t use reflectors?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 4:26 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It's turned 90*.  I don't know if KP tested the reflector with it, but I 
>> would safely assume it won't illuminate as well as previous.  It uses the 
>> same holder but will also use a new one that doesn't suck.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Does the Force180 have the same form factor as the previous integrated unit? 
>>   Does it use the same KP performance reflector?  Same holder, etc.?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 5:01 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 2.4 seems to be the best option for access standards 
>> Of course apple really really wants to be the new standard for wifi :)
>> 
>> On 12/02/2015 01:43 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> 
>> I ignore anything 2.4 because I consider it useless in my environment.  
>> Maybe that's it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:41:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180
>> 
>> Force 200 comes in 2.4 and 5 GHz bands.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Yes, the model scheme from Cambium can become even more insane.  And you 
>> thought it would stop at C0498732975928402580SA9S!!!!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes. I wasn't aware there was a 2.4 version until I heard it here, but maybe 
>> I just wasn't paying attention before. There is definitely a 5 GHz version.
>> 
>> 
>> Much nicer to assemble. Much.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Josh Baird" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:27:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So, there is a 5ghz Force 200 on it's way?  I thought it was only 2.4.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> There is a shortage/lack of Force 110.  My reps gave me a heads up a month 
>> ago and I ordered 3 month supply to be safe.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I've heard the first of the year is supposed to deliver Force 200 5 GHz.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, I think the integrated is discontinued... anyway, I certainly wouldn't 
>> wait for them, the Force 180 is the same price and much nicer.
>> 
>> Is that why there's been a shortage of Force 110s? I thought it was still 
>> going to be a few months until the 5ghz Force 200 was shipping...
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've heard that the older lines have been halted with the expectation 
>> everyone is buying the new ones - force 180 and force 200.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I'd suggest using Force 180 and 200 for 5 GHz.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Louis Arsenault <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> What is the story with the ePMP line?
>> 
>> I have had ePMP integrated units on back order for several weeks now.
>> Has Cambium stopped production on them?
>> Since we are 5Ghz then we should move to the Force 180?
>> 
>> --
>> -Louis
>> 
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