It's greater gain, definitely more range. Also a more vertical spread and less horizontal, which means you'll pick up less noise across the horizon (and more vertically but not many towers are stacked :)
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 3, 2015 4:50 PM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" <[email protected]> wrote: > You are supposed to get greater distance with the 180 than the past > integrated SM because of their new floating antenna design. Has anyone > tested that out? > > Jeff Broadwick > ConVergence Technologies, Inc. > 312-205-2519 Office > 574-220-7826 Cell > [email protected] > > On Dec 3, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I think they're expecting you to use Force180 for nearby customers and > Force200 for farther customers... > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Oh wow… maybe I am missing something. >> >> >> >> If the KP dish with standard SM does SM dB + 9 dB, and the Force 180 (no >> reflector) does standard SM + 3db, did we just lose 6dB of gain (NET) if we >> can’t use reflectors? >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >> *Sent:* Thursday, December 03, 2015 4:26 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 >> >> >> >> It's turned 90*. I don't know if KP tested the reflector with it, but I >> would safely assume it won't illuminate as well as previous. It uses the >> same holder but will also use a new one that doesn't suck. >> >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Does the Force180 have the same form factor as the previous integrated >> unit? Does it use the same KP performance reflector? Same holder, etc.? >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *David >> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 02, 2015 5:01 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 >> >> >> >> 2.4 seems to be the best option for access standards >> Of course apple really really wants to be the new standard for wifi :) >> >> On 12/02/2015 01:43 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >> I ignore anything 2.4 because I consider it useless in my environment. >> Maybe that's it. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> http://www.midwest-ix.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >> <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:41:21 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 >> >> Force 200 comes in 2.4 and 5 GHz bands. >> >> >> >> Yes, the model scheme from Cambium can become even more insane. And you >> thought it would stop at C0498732975928402580SA9S!!!! >> >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Yes. I wasn't aware there was a 2.4 version until I heard it here, but >> maybe I just wasn't paying attention before. There is definitely a 5 GHz >> version. >> >> >> Much nicer to assemble. Much. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> http://www.midwest-ix.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Josh Baird" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:27:57 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180 >> >> >> >> So, there is a 5ghz Force 200 on it's way? I thought it was only 2.4. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> There is a shortage/lack of Force 110. My reps gave me a heads up a >> month ago and I ordered 3 month supply to be safe. >> >> >> >> I've heard the first of the year is supposed to deliver Force 200 5 GHz. >> >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Yeah, I think the integrated is discontinued... anyway, I certainly >> wouldn't wait for them, the Force 180 is the same price and much nicer. >> >> Is that why there's been a shortage of Force 110s? I thought it was still >> going to be a few months until the 5ghz Force 200 was shipping... >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Josh Luthman < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I've heard that the older lines have been halted with the expectation >> everyone is buying the new ones - force 180 and force 200. >> >> >> >> I'd suggest using Force 180 and 200 for 5 GHz. >> >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Louis Arsenault <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> What is the story with the ePMP line? >> >> I have had ePMP integrated units on back order for several weeks now. >> Has Cambium stopped production on them? >> Since we are 5Ghz then we should move to the Force 180? >> >> -- >> -Louis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
