"Back when I was a kid, lots of people may have been ignorant or lacked education, but I don’t remember anyone being proud of it. "
this On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > It pains me to see the rise of willful ignorance in this country. > > Sometimes people assume because I’m 65 that I don’t understand science and > technology, which they must equate to knowing how to use Snapchat and > Instagram. > > But I went to elementary school during the Space Race and the “New Math”. > The smart kids in school were looked up to, science and math were cool. In > fact, what is now called “STEM” was viewed as a strategic imperative during > the Cold War. Good teachers were heroes of the community. Families had > encyclopedias on the bookshelf and Scientific American, National > Geographic, Time and Newsweek on the coffee table. High schools taught US > and World History and some form of Civics class. Which apparently is > coming back and is considered “pushing the envelope”: > > > http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-civics-required-for-graduation-met-20150907-story.html > > Back when I was a kid, lots of people may have been ignorant or lacked > education, but I don’t remember anyone being proud of it. > > > *From:* Patrick Leary <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 10:03 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > > > Even worse Rory, because then you have many people who claim to know the > meaning of these labels but they are simply incorrect and are repeating > sound bites, and/or misapply them as a matter of course, even in > contradiction without a trace of irony. > > > > …e.g., “Obama is a follower of Reverend Wright!!!,” but is also a Kenyan > born Muslim. > > > > Go figure. It’s the death of critical thinking in this country. It has > spawned lots of ignorance. Did you know an elected city zoning board in > Woodland, NC just banned a solar farm on the grounds that it would steal > too much of the sun’s energy, thus putting photosynthesis of plants and > crops at risk? Yeah, that just happened in the U.S.A….in 2015. > > > http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/2015/12/08/woodland-rejects-solar-farm/ > > > > > > Patrick > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway > *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 8:32 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > > > > I think that was misunderstood. My point was, regardless of the > candidates, is that the vast majority of voters simply don’t know the > facts, don’t care about the facts, and are not prepared to provide a vote > that is based on research and education. I can ask 10 people what the > Trans Pacific Partnership was about and 10 of them won’t have a clue. Show > a picture of Biden to 10 people and I’d be surprised if 8 of them recognize > him and his position in the government. Most of them don’t have any idea > of our country’s history, could tell you the difference between Democracy, > Socialism, and Communism, or even know who fought in World Wars, the Civil > War, or even which side won. The fact is, even with all the resources > available to the public today, the average voter is more ignorant today > than in the past. The all know the Kardashians but few of them could name > off their Senators or Congressman. This isn’t partisan, this is the state > of our country today. Picking out supporters of any candidate for being > ignorant is trite when the entire electorate is clueless. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 6:19 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > > > > Not trying to offend anyone on list....I get kick out of all mayhem on > news...but if you do get offended....I can only say. If the shoe > fits...don't take it off. > > On Dec 13, 2015 6:08 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote: > > It's actually a sign of great intelligence to simultaneously hold two > opposite opinions at the same time. > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 12/13/2015 5:02 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > I think calling people ignorant because they support an opposing candidate > is over simplification and pretty ignorant itself. > Trump is appealing to the base fears and anger for a large number of > people who believe nobody else is addressing th those concerns. > I had to laugh today. I saw some consultant interviewing a bunch Trump > supporters. Some lady said she didn't like Obama because he was arrogant > and thought to much of himself. I thought, "wait a second. You are a trump > supporter?" Doesn't Trump have nearly the entire market cornered on that > trait? > > > > On Sun, Dec 13, 2015, 6:50 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> > wrote: > > And I like Mickey Mouse's voice much better compared to Cruz or Trumps... > > On Dec 13, 2015 5:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Lets fact check Rory....lol > > On Dec 13, 2015 5:03 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Really, and Hillary supporters don’t even acknowledge she sold influence > in that State Department for billions and took hundreds of millions for > bogus speeches. All candidates have followers that really don’t know > what’s going on so singling out Trump is bogus if you don’t add the voters > who thought Obama was going to pay their mortgage (that was a real Einstein > moment). With 90% of the people not even knowing who the vice-president > is, you can always find idiots who will vote for Mickey Mouse if he said he > was for some hot political topic. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 3:10 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > > > > The scary thing Stefan is not Trump as much as his followers...when they > are interviewed it reminds how narrow minded they are...they think > professional wrestling is real among other things but I might offend some > on list... > > On Dec 13, 2015 2:26 PM, "Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I said foreign view :-). We have very different laws and thoughts on > privacy. Our politicians are allowed to keep more privacy. In such a case > the private emails would not be open to a broad audience. I did not say she > followed US rules. > > -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- > Von: Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> > Datum: 13.12.2015 21:40 (GMT+01:00) > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > ************************************************************************************ > > > > > > ************************************************************************************ > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > viruses. > > ************************************************************************************ > > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
