Hmmm, “New Math”, you are a bit older them me, I figured New Math was invented 
for me.  They said it was “new”.    
They gave up on it when I was in the 3rd or 4th grade.  

As I recall it was trying to introduce the concept of functions.  Seemed fun to 
me.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 9:33 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies

It pains me to see the rise of willful ignorance in this country.

Sometimes people assume because I’m 65 that I don’t understand science and 
technology, which they must equate to knowing how to use Snapchat and Instagram.

But I went to elementary school during the Space Race and the “New Math”.  The 
smart kids in school were looked up to, science and math were cool.  In fact, 
what is now called “STEM” was viewed as a strategic imperative during the Cold 
War.  Good teachers were heroes of the community.  Families had encyclopedias 
on the bookshelf and Scientific American, National Geographic, Time and 
Newsweek on the coffee table.  High schools taught US and World History and 
some form of Civics class.  Which apparently is coming back and is considered 
“pushing the envelope”:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-civics-required-for-graduation-met-20150907-story.html

Back when I was a kid, lots of people may have been ignorant or lacked 
education, but I don’t remember anyone being proud of it.


From: Patrick Leary 
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 10:03 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies

Even worse Rory, because then you have many people who claim to know the 
meaning of these labels but they are simply incorrect and are repeating sound 
bites, and/or misapply them as a matter of course, even in contradiction 
without a trace of irony.

 

…e.g., “Obama is a follower of Reverend Wright!!!,” but is also a Kenyan born 
Muslim.

 

Go figure. It’s the death of critical thinking in this country. It has spawned 
lots of ignorance. Did you know an elected city zoning board in Woodland, NC 
just banned a solar farm on the grounds that it would steal too much of the 
sun’s energy, thus putting photosynthesis of plants and crops at risk? Yeah, 
that just happened in the U.S.A….in 2015.

http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/2015/12/08/woodland-rejects-solar-farm/

 

 

Patrick

 

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 8:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies

 

I think that was misunderstood.  My point was, regardless of the candidates, is 
that the vast majority of voters simply don’t know the facts, don’t care about 
the facts, and are not prepared to provide a vote that is based on research and 
education.  I can ask 10 people what the Trans Pacific Partnership was about 
and 10 of them won’t have a clue.  Show a picture of Biden to 10 people and I’d 
be surprised if 8 of them recognize him and his position in the government.  
Most of them don’t have any idea of our country’s history, could tell you the 
difference between Democracy, Socialism, and Communism, or even know who fought 
in World Wars, the Civil War, or even which side won.  The fact is, even with 
all the resources available to the public today, the average voter is more 
ignorant today than in the past.  The all know the Kardashians but few of them 
could name off their Senators or Congressman.  This isn’t partisan, this is the 
state of our country today.  Picking out supporters of any candidate for being 
ignorant is trite when the entire electorate is clueless.

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 6:19 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies

 

Not trying to offend anyone  on list....I get kick out of all mayhem on 
news...but if you do get offended....I can only say.   If the  shoe 
fits...don't take it off. 

On Dec 13, 2015 6:08 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:

It's actually a sign of great intelligence to simultaneously hold two opposite 
opinions at the same time.



bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 12/13/2015 5:02 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

  I think calling people ignorant because they support an opposing candidate is 
over simplification and pretty ignorant itself. 
  Trump is appealing to the base fears and anger for a large number of people 
who believe nobody else is addressing th those concerns.
  I had to laugh today. I saw  some consultant interviewing a bunch Trump 
supporters. Some lady said she didn't like Obama because he was arrogant and 
thought to much of himself. I thought, "wait a second. You are a trump 
supporter?" Doesn't Trump have nearly the entire market cornered on that trait?

   

  On Sun, Dec 13, 2015, 6:50 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> wrote:

    And I like  Mickey Mouse's voice much better compared to Cruz or Trumps...

    On Dec 13, 2015 5:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Lets fact check Rory....lol

    On Dec 13, 2015 5:03 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Really, and Hillary supporters don’t even acknowledge she sold influence in 
that State Department for billions and took hundreds of millions for bogus 
speeches.  All candidates have followers that really don’t know what’s going on 
so singling out Trump is bogus if you don’t add the voters who thought Obama 
was going to pay their mortgage (that was a real Einstein moment).  With 90% of 
the people not even knowing who the vice-president is, you can always find 
idiots who will vote for Mickey Mouse if he said he was for some hot political 
topic.

     

    Rory

     

    From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
    Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 3:10 PM
    To: Animal Farm
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies

     

    The scary  thing Stefan is not Trump as much as his followers...when they 
are interviewed it reminds how narrow minded  they are...they think 
professional  wrestling is real among other things  but I might offend some on 
list... 

    On Dec 13, 2015 2:26 PM, "Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected]> wrote:

    I said foreign view :-). We have very different laws and thoughts on 
privacy. Our politicians are allowed to keep more privacy. In such a case the 
private emails would not be open to a broad audience. I did not say she 
followed US rules.

    -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
    Von: Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> 
    Datum: 13.12.2015 21:40 (GMT+01:00) 
    An: [email protected] 
    Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies 

 





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