Agreed, it seems like not everyone understands that. Cambium goes for short 
term revenue and to maximize...which is why Ubiquiti rolled right over them...

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

> On Jan 6, 2016, at 12:09 PM, Craig Schmaderer <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I have 5 450 AP Lites from double radius, around $1100 bucks or so, I just 
> ordered my first 450 ap lite upgrade key and just got it today.  This has 
> worked just as planned, we install a new tower location with 4 radios knowing 
> that total customers would be around 50 – 70 and we had a ap that was going 
> to have a bit more.  We just had our first fill up with 10 users.  This is 
> why I love ap lites, if  they didn’t have them, I probably would have used 
> different equipment, but now they have a customer buying 450 sms.  I just 
> want the new 450i ap to have a lite version, which to me makes sense because 
> they are selling the 450i ap at the same price as the 450 ap.  I would assume 
> they are not even making 450 aps anymore, if they are I don’t know why you 
> would buy them unless they are cheaper which my dealer says they are not.  So 
> I just don’t want to buy any  more outdated aps and I have about 4 towers I 
> want to do this year with lite versions.  
>  
> Craig R. Schmaderer
> CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
> Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
> Direct: 402-372-1052
>  
> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:22 AM
> To: af
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lite upgrade license on Force PTP
>  
> I'm pretty sure Cambium did announce an actual lite AP awhile back, so I was 
> assuming you can order them now... but I haven't tried, so I don't know for 
> sure.
> You can always order connectorized SMs to use up the extra dishes, so it 
> doesn't matter too much to me (until the Force 200 shows up).
>  
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> I saw that, too.  I don't think you can order just the AP (even if you didn't 
> want the free dish).
> 
> Iirc an SM alone is like $25 cheaper than the force 110.  Saves a bit per AP. 
>  Of course it's not relevant when the force 200 shows up.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Jan 6, 2016 11:14 AM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, they do sell it as just a Lite AP now.
> but... Streakwave lists it as the same price as the Force110 PTP. I haven't 
> checked pricing at any of the other distributors, since I like having extra 
> dishes anyway.
>  
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> Do they sell "lite AP"?  I thought it was only sold as a Force 110 ptp 
> (mandatory dish with the radio).
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Jan 6, 2016 11:07 AM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Aye. the PTP radios and the Lite AP are the exact same thing.
>  
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> That's exactly what it's for dude :P
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Jan 6, 2016 9:24 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Any ideas if the Lite license upgrade would work on the Force PTP radios as 
> well? This would be for when you used a Force 110PTP radio as an AP on a 
> sector and then later upgrade the license.
> 
> 
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> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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