They redefined the wisp equipment market so I'm not sure that's a fair 
statement...and especially for the AC equipment coming out. And then Cambium 
did copy them with ePMP :-) But yeah we're using PMP450 lite where applicable 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

> On Jan 6, 2016, at 12:32 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> And UBNT uses a lot of off the shelf shit while Cambium designs their own 
> shit. I'm not arguing against a Lite 450i. We've made use of it on the 
> regular 450 and it's awesome.
> 
>> On 1/6/2016 11:27 AM, Jon Langeler wrote:
>> Agreed, it seems like not everyone understands that. Cambium goes for short 
>> term revenue and to maximize...which is why Ubiquiti rolled right over 
>> them...
>> 
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>> 
>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 12:09 PM, Craig Schmaderer <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have 5 450 AP Lites from double radius, around $1100 bucks or so, I just 
>>> ordered my first 450 ap lite upgrade key and just got it today.  This has 
>>> worked just as planned, we install a new tower location with 4 radios 
>>> knowing that total customers would be around 50 – 70 and we had a ap that 
>>> was going to have a bit more.  We just had our first fill up with 10 users. 
>>>  This is why I love ap lites, if  they didn’t have them, I probably would 
>>> have used different equipment, but now they have a customer buying 450 sms. 
>>>  I just want the new 450i ap to have a lite version, which to me makes 
>>> sense because they are selling the 450i ap at the same price as the 450 ap. 
>>>  I would assume they are not even making 450 aps anymore, if they are I 
>>> don’t know why you would buy them unless they are cheaper which my dealer 
>>> says they are not.  So I just don’t want to buy any  more outdated aps and 
>>> I have about 4 towers I want to do this year with lite versions.  
>>>  
>>> Craig R. Schmaderer
>>> CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>>> Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
>>> Direct: 402-372-1052
>>>  
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:22 AM
>>> To: af
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lite upgrade license on Force PTP
>>>  
>>> I'm pretty sure Cambium did announce an actual lite AP awhile back, so I 
>>> was assuming you can order them now... but I haven't tried, so I don't know 
>>> for sure.
>>> You can always order connectorized SMs to use up the extra dishes, so it 
>>> doesn't matter too much to me (until the Force 200 shows up).
>>>  
>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> I saw that, too.  I don't think you can order just the AP (even if you 
>>> didn't want the free dish).
>>> 
>>> Iirc an SM alone is like $25 cheaper than the force                   110.  
>>> Saves a bit per AP.  Of course it's not relevant when the force 200 shows 
>>> up.
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>> On Jan 6, 2016 11:14 AM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Yes, they do sell it as just a Lite AP now.
>>> but... Streakwave lists it as the same price as the Force110 PTP. I haven't 
>>> checked pricing at any of the other distributors, since I like having extra 
>>> dishes anyway.
>>>  
>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Do they sell "lite AP"?  I thought it was only sold as a Force 110 ptp 
>>> (mandatory dish with the radio).
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>> On Jan 6, 2016 11:07 AM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Aye. the PTP radios and the Lite AP are the exact same thing.
>>>  
>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> That's exactly what it's for dude :P
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>> On Jan 6, 2016 9:24 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Any ideas if the Lite license upgrade would work on the Force PTP radios as 
>>> well? This would be for when you used a Force 110PTP radio as an AP on a 
>>> sector and then later upgrade the license.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
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