Is it a copy if it is better? :-p 



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From: "Jon Langeler" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 11:49:48 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lite upgrade license on Force PTP 


They redefined the wisp equipment market so I'm not sure that's a fair 
statement...and especially for the AC equipment coming out. And then Cambium 
did copy them with ePMP :-) But yeah we're using PMP450 lite where applicable 


Jon Langeler 
Michwave Technologies, Inc. 

On Jan 6, 2016, at 12:32 PM, George Skorup < [email protected] > wrote: 




And UBNT uses a lot of off the shelf shit while Cambium designs their own shit. 
I'm not arguing against a Lite 450i. We've made use of it on the regular 450 
and it's awesome. 


On 1/6/2016 11:27 AM, Jon Langeler wrote: 

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Agreed, it seems like not everyone understands that. Cambium goes for short 
term revenue and to maximize...which is why Ubiquiti rolled right over them... 


Jon Langeler 
Michwave Technologies, Inc. 

On Jan 6, 2016, at 12:09 PM, Craig Schmaderer < [email protected] > 
wrote: 


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I have 5 450 AP Lites from double radius, around $1100 bucks or so, I just 
ordered my first 450 ap lite upgrade key and just got it today. This has worked 
just as planned, we install a new tower location with 4 radios knowing that 
total customers would be around 50 – 70 and we had a ap that was going to have 
a bit more. We just had our first fill up with 10 users. This is why I love ap 
lites, if they didn’t have them, I probably would have used different 
equipment, but now they have a customer buying 450 sms. I just want the new 
450i ap to have a lite version, which to me makes sense because they are 
selling the 450i ap at the same price as the 450 ap. I would assume they are 
not even making 450 aps anymore, if they are I don’t know why you would buy 
them unless they are cheaper which my dealer says they are not. So I just don’t 
want to buy any more outdated aps and I have about 4 towers I want to do this 
year with lite versions. 

Craig R. Schmaderer 
CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc. 
Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058 
Direct: 402-372-1052 

From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard 
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:22 AM 
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lite upgrade license on Force PTP 



I'm pretty sure Cambium did announce an actual lite AP awhile back, so I was 
assuming you can order them now... but I haven't tried, so I don't know for 
sure. 
You can always order connectorized SMs to use up the extra dishes, so it 
doesn't matter too much to me (until the Force 200 shows up). 



On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman < [email protected] > 
wrote: 
I saw that, too. I don't think you can order just the AP (even if you didn't 
want the free dish). 
Iirc an SM alone is like $25 cheaper than the force 110. Saves a bit per AP. Of 
course it's not relevant when the force 200 shows up. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 



On Jan 6, 2016 11:14 AM, "Mathew Howard" < [email protected] > wrote: 

Yes, they do sell it as just a Lite AP now. 
but... Streakwave lists it as the same price as the Force110 PTP. I haven't 
checked pricing at any of the other distributors, since I like having extra 
dishes anyway. 



On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Josh Luthman < [email protected] > 
wrote: 
Do they sell "lite AP"? I thought it was only sold as a Force 110 ptp 
(mandatory dish with the radio). 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 



On Jan 6, 2016 11:07 AM, "Mathew Howard" < [email protected] > wrote: 

Aye. the PTP radios and the Lite AP are the exact same thing. 



On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Josh Luthman < [email protected] > 
wrote: 
That's exactly what it's for dude :P 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 



On Jan 6, 2016 9:24 AM, "Mike Hammett" < [email protected] > wrote: 


Any ideas if the Lite license upgrade would work on the Force PTP radios as 
well? This would be for when you used a Force 110PTP radio as an AP on a sector 
and then later upgrade the license. 



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