In China materials and labor are free. Just got to pay for shipping 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

> On Jan 14, 2016, at 10:24 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> It doesn’t seem like you could buy the materials to make such a cable for $4, 
> then there’s the labor.  How do they do it?
>  
> From: Mathew Howard
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:17 PM
> To: af
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel
>  
> I found some N male to rpsma at Streakwave for $4.
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2016 9:05 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The blue Mikrotik ones are ~ $8, but those are SMA to SMA.  And without the 
>> spark plug boots.
>>  
>> From: Mathew Howard
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 8:20 PM
>> To: af
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel
>>  
>> I don't know off hand what the cables cost, those were some I already had. I 
>> think I've gotten them for $3-5 each in the past.
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2016 8:10 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> If  it is SMA on the radio, I could  have flying leads coming out of the 
>>> back of the antenna thereby dispensing with a couple of connectors. 
>>>  
>>> How much did the cables cost  you?
>>>  
>>> From: Mathew Howard
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 6:56 PM
>>> To: af
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel
>>>  
>>> Yeah, SMA on the radio. 
>>> No, those antennas didn't come with cables, I'm guessing they can supply 
>>> cables, but I didn't think to ask... the antennas appear to be intended to 
>>> use with ubnt Rockets (they have a holder for one built on), which would 
>>> use the same connectors.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 14, 2016 7:50 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Cables and connectors are not cheap when manufacturing.  PITA.  Hmmm.
>>>> SMA on the radio?
>>>>  
>>>> Did the chinese antenna come with cables?
>>>>  
>>>> From: Mathew Howard
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 6:44 PM
>>>> To: af
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel
>>>>  
>>>> No, they don't come with cables - those are permanently attached to the 
>>>> Cambium yagis.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 14, 2016 7:40 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Possibly.  I have the mold for the cover.  Back would be aluminum.  Just 
>>>>> need a nice pocket that slips over and interfaces          with the 
>>>>> radio.   Does the radio come with cables?
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: Josh Luthman
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 6:33 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel
>>>>>  
>>>>> Slip on stinger would be way faster.  Could you match the price?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 14, 2016 8:31 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> I would have to have a large commitment to meet that price for a slip on 
>>>>>> stinger version. 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From: Mathew Howard
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 5:58 PM
>>>>>> To: af
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> This is the antenna: http://www.lanbowan.com/ANT915D12C-DP.htm
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> The antennas themselves are pretty cheap - they charged me $41.61/each, 
>>>>>> but shipping was quite expensive (they sent them DHL - there are 
>>>>>> obviously cheaper ways). I suspect that if you ordered a large enough 
>>>>>> quantity to get a decent shipping rate, even after adding jumper cables, 
>>>>>> it would still be a bit cheaper than the Cambium yagis.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I did do a little testing with V/H... but it was kind of inconclusive, 
>>>>>> the signal level was only slightly weaker, but when I ran a link test, 
>>>>>> it was much worse - about 45m down vs 90m, I tried holding the Cambium 
>>>>>> yagi at a 45 degree angle and it was pretty similar results - 70m vs 90m 
>>>>>> and slightly weaker signal. I'm not sure if that was anything to do with 
>>>>>> the polarity being mismatched, or if it was just that H/V doesn't work 
>>>>>> as well as slant at that particular location... also, I was just holding 
>>>>>> thing antennas for the H/V tests and they were mounted at +/-45, so that 
>>>>>> could account for some of it too.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> What’s it cost?
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> From: Mathew Howard
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 3:36 PM
>>>>>>> To: af
>>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Fresh from China :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I tested it at two different customer's houses, and signal levels were 
>>>>>>> consistently within 1db of the Cambium yagis. Not quite as clean of a 
>>>>>>> package as the Cambium antennas, but it works and it's not a yagi... I 
>>>>>>> did have to replace the bracket to make it dual slant though.

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