Reboot the whole fucking Internet... bet it fixes lots of issues. On Jan 15, 2016 6:37 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The #1 thing I learned at NANOG was that the big vendors are just as full > of shit as the little vendors. Cisco, Juniper, AlcaLu, etc. are all just as > likely to ignore problems and create bugs as Mikrotik, Ubiquiti, etc. > > When sitting at a table at about 1 AM one night with a head engineer with > one international operator and one national operator I said something to > the effect of, "I've just largely been listening to you guys comparing > notes on different products and issues you've had. I use Mikrotik routers > in my network and people often say they are junk and that Cisco, Juniper, > etc. are the way to go. Those vendors are exactly who you guys use and yet > here you are with the same type of complaints as we have with our vendors." > The one at the international vendor chimed in, "and we pay 10x more for > that right." > > Don't lose sight of that. > > For example, Cisco is known for having Ethernet chipset incompatibility > issues.... which is exactly what this sub-topic has been about. > > > To think otherwise is simply blind arrogance. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > Midwest Internet Exchange > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:49:12 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download > > This is sort of an illustration of why I am still very wary of Mikrotik > for routers. > > There's a myriad of Cisco routers available with 12 to 20 SFP-based GbE > interfacess (used/refurb) that are just as capable, if somewhat bigger and > hotter, that run very stable versions of IOS. It's totally unacceptable for > Cisco to break basic functionality for $HUGE_ISP and > $HUGE_ENTERPRISE_CUSTOMER , which are usually using the same IOS trains I > use for service provider functions. > > Mikrotik OS software support is pretty much "hey go over to this forum and > hope somebody answers your question", if something is broken you are just > supposed to wait for a new version release in a month or two. If something > is fundamentally broken in a version of IOS used by a mature (6+ year old) > Cisco platform it's almost certain that somebody much bigger and more > important than yourself has already run into the issue, escalated it with > Cisco, and a new build fixing the bug is available. > > If the space and power are available I would much rather have a 6503E with > dual supervisor than a CCR.... > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> This just gets even better. Worked 24 hours, then breaks again. Up to >> Level 4 tech support. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:56 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download >> >> >> >> We are taking it to the Mikrotik forum. This makes no sense since we >> have 12 of the already running with no issues. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:54 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download >> >> >> >> I’m not terribly happy with ROS since 6.29. >> >> >> >> Maybe it’s just still not 100% yet. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2016 8:36 PM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download >> >> >> >> Replaced the Mikrotik routers with an Airrouter, it works. Replaced with >> an Edgerouter, still works. This goes under the category of WTF. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *Rory Conaway >> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 9:13 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download >> >> >> >> We tried 3 Mikrotik routers, 2 cable modems, and two radios from two >> different manufacturers. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop >> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 8:52 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download >> >> >> >> MTU? >> >> Last time I had that problem was an inconsistent Ethernet connection. It >> wasn’t showing errors, but UDP was dropping packets. TCP retransmitted. >> >> UDP was screwy, but TCP was downloading at the limit of the wireless feed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >> >> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 9:47 PM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download >> >> >> >> Nailed the problem down to the Mikrotik router having a problem with DNS >> caching whether it’s Cox or Google. Not sure where to go from there since >> the other 12 don’t have a problem. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *Rory Conaway >> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 4:44 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download >> >> >> >> We had raons bit no dangling cables. Level 3 says no errors to the modem >> and we had a tech out already. We are changing the 2011 to a 450 just to >> confirm before we eacalate further. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Rory Conaway >> >> Triad Wireless >> >> >> >> Typed on my phone with one finger so please excuse typos and >> abbreviations. >> >> >> >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> >> From: That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> >> >> Date: 1/11/2016 10:38 AM (GMT-07:00) >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download >> >> >> >> If it just started and youre in an area hit by storms, some of the >> neighbors, mostly the empty houses with no tenants at this point, cable was >> busted down by tree limbs and is dangling terminated byt the mud now >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Likely an RF issue on the cable side. >> >> I see this sort of thing with the company I consult for. They’ll have me >> going through the router, trying to shut down the “virus” or peer to peer >> when it is thousands and thousands of retransmits and broken packets. >> >> >> >> Just like our wireless it can have good quality until loaded, then watch >> the quality drop to nearly nothing and loose connection. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >> >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2016 8:25 PM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download >> >> >> >> The Netgear router has nothing to do with it, I was just using their >> website as an example of downloading a file. It’s computer, 2011, cable >> modem, the world. I just can’t download anything from any sites. What’s >> weird is they just drop. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2016 5:12 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download >> >> >> >> You mention Netgear, is this a Netgear router? They used to have a >> problem with downloads stalling, but that was quite a few years ago. The >> fix was to disable SPI Firewall. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >> >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2016 6:06 PM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download >> >> >> >> We have a cable circuit that can do everything except download. There is >> a Mikrotik router between the computer and the cable modem. Haven’t tested >> taking the router out yet but we have tried 2 routers, same results. >> Basically, downloads either don’t start or start and then just crash. Game >> machines can’t update, even downloading a 20MB file from netgear fails. >> Everything else seems to work. Any ideas would be helpful. >> >> >> >> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO* >> >> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040* >> >> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>* >> >> *[email protected] <[email protected]>* >> >> *www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>* >> >> >> >> “Life is full of unfair calls, missed plays, and bad catches. But true >> baseball players keep on playing” - Lessons from Baseball >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> > > >
