Reboot the whole fucking Internet... bet it fixes lots of issues.
On Jan 15, 2016 6:37 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The #1 thing I learned at NANOG was that the big vendors are just
as full of shit as the little vendors. Cisco, Juniper, AlcaLu,
etc. are all just as likely to ignore problems and create bugs as
Mikrotik, Ubiquiti, etc.
When sitting at a table at about 1 AM one night with a head
engineer with one international operator and one national operator
I said something to the effect of, "I've just largely been
listening to you guys comparing notes on different products and
issues you've had. I use Mikrotik routers in my network and people
often say they are junk and that Cisco, Juniper, etc. are the way
to go. Those vendors are exactly who you guys use and yet here you
are with the same type of complaints as we have with our vendors."
The one at the international vendor chimed in, "and we pay 10x
more for that right."
Don't lose sight of that.
For example, Cisco is known for having Ethernet chipset
incompatibility issues.... which is exactly what this sub-topic
has been about.
To think otherwise is simply blind arrogance.
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*From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:49:12 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
This is sort of an illustration of why I am still very wary of
Mikrotik for routers.
There's a myriad of Cisco routers available with 12 to 20
SFP-based GbE interfacess (used/refurb) that are just as capable,
if somewhat bigger and hotter, that run very stable versions of
IOS. It's totally unacceptable for Cisco to break basic
functionality for $HUGE_ISP and $HUGE_ENTERPRISE_CUSTOMER , which
are usually using the same IOS trains I use for service provider
functions.
Mikrotik OS software support is pretty much "hey go over to this
forum and hope somebody answers your question", if something is
broken you are just supposed to wait for a new version release in
a month or two. If something is fundamentally broken in a version
of IOS used by a mature (6+ year old) Cisco platform it's almost
certain that somebody much bigger and more important than yourself
has already run into the issue, escalated it with Cisco, and a new
build fixing the bug is available.
If the space and power are available I would much rather have a
6503E with dual supervisor than a CCR....
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Rory Conaway
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This just gets even better. Worked 24 hours, then breaks
again. Up to Level 4 tech support.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:56 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
We are taking it to the Mikrotik forum. This makes no sense
since we have 12 of the already running with no issues.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Glen
Waldrop
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:54 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
I’m not terribly happy with ROS since 6.29.
Maybe it’s just still not 100% yet.
*From:*Rory Conaway <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Tuesday, January 12, 2016 8:36 PM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
Replaced the Mikrotik routers with an Airrouter, it works.
Replaced with an Edgerouter, still works. This goes under the
category of WTF.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rory
Conaway
*Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 9:13 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
We tried 3 Mikrotik routers, 2 cable modems, and two radios
from two different manufacturers.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Glen
Waldrop
*Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 8:52 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
MTU?
Last time I had that problem was an inconsistent Ethernet
connection. It wasn’t showing errors, but UDP was dropping
packets. TCP retransmitted.
UDP was screwy, but TCP was downloading at the limit of the
wireless feed.
*From:*Rory Conaway <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Monday, January 11, 2016 9:47 PM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
Nailed the problem down to the Mikrotik router having a
problem with DNS caching whether it’s Cox or Google. Not sure
where to go from there since the other 12 don’t have a problem.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rory
Conaway
*Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 4:44 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
We had raons bit no dangling cables. Level 3 says no errors
to the modem and we had a tech out already. We are changing
the 2011 to a 450 just to confirm before we eacalate further.
Rory Conaway
Triad Wireless
Typed on my phone with one finger so please excuse typos and
abbreviations.
-------- Original message --------
From: That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: 1/11/2016 10:38 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
If it just started and youre in an area hit by storms, some of
the neighbors, mostly the empty houses with no tenants at this
point, cable was busted down by tree limbs and is dangling
terminated byt the mud now
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Glen Waldrop
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Likely an RF issue on the cable side.
I see this sort of thing with the company I consult for.
They’ll have me going through the router, trying to shut
down the “virus” or peer to peer when it is thousands and
thousands of retransmits and broken packets.
Just like our wireless it can have good quality until
loaded, then watch the quality drop to nearly nothing and
loose connection.
*From:*Rory Conaway <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Sunday, January 10, 2016 8:25 PM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
The Netgear router has nothing to do with it, I was just
using their website as an example of downloading a file.
It’s computer, 2011, cable modem, the world. I just can’t
download anything from any sites. What’s weird is they
just drop.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2016 5:12 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
You mention Netgear, is this a Netgear router? They used
to have a problem with downloads stalling, but that was
quite a few years ago. The fix was to disable SPI Firewall.
*From:*Rory Conaway <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Sunday, January 10, 2016 6:06 PM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*[AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
We have a cable circuit that can do everything except
download. There is a Mikrotik router between the computer
and the cable modem. Haven’t tested taking the router out
yet but we have tried 2 routers, same results. Basically,
downloads either don’t start or start and then just
crash. Game machines can’t update, even downloading a
20MB file from netgear fails. Everything else seems to
work. Any ideas would be helpful.
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*4226 S. 37^th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
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