I'd never heard of frostnip. They did turn color over the soles, so
maybe it was just the beginning. I remember my feet being really
sensitive for a while afterward, and skin did sluff off the bottoms. No
toe damage other than the darker color (not black, and I didn't lose any
toes). They look kind of normal now.
bp
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On 1/17/2016 6:22 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
Unless your skin turned black it wasn't frostbite, it was frostnip. I
have had it twice and it still hurts like hell but the skin doesn't
die off. It does permanently change though. My toes still have a
shiney, slick appearance they didn't have before.
But I'll give you this, as long as you never thaw those extremeties
you can operate at a decent level. Once thawed and you actually have
had some nerve damage it is impossible to walk, for instance, without
looking like you are barefoot on sharp glass.
Having said all that I hadn't considered that maybe the real story had
them frozen the entire time and then just had to get various parts cut
off.
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 9:44 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
It's not impossible to be in freezing water for longer periods of
time.
When I was a teenager, I and a friend got a couple of snowmobiles
stuck in 18" of frozen slush when the temp was between -10 and -20
(about -10 when we got the snowmobiles stuck, and about -20 two
hours later when we gave up trying to get them completely out).
We both fell in several times, and when we got back to the nearby
cabin we were both near hypothermia. My jeans were coated with
about a 1" thick layer of ice, and my boots had frozen to my feet.
When my Dad got me home, my parents had to cut off both the jeans
and the boots. They put me in a tub of tepid water until I started
looking more normal. I did suffer some frostbite, and my feet
still get cold faster than about any other part of my body.
None-the-less, I am living proof you can get wet in freezing
water, and survive at least a couple of hours.
bp
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On 1/16/2016 4:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Yep, I was in 32 degree water with ice floating on it two times.
Once for about 90 seconds and once for about 2 minutes. It is an
emergency for certain.
*From:* Lewis Bergman <mailto:[email protected]>
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*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review - minor spoiler
Yea. The most obvious flaw was the ability to jump out of
freezing water and just traipse around. You have to at least
strip down and get dry clothes on to survive.
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 5:29 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Revenant
Things bugged me in Gravity.
Similar things bugged me in Revenant.
While a true story, they were oblivious to the effect of
hypothermia and cold water exposure in the winter.
And that old story of climbing inside the carcass of a large
mammal to get warm has been proven false many times. The
animal gets cold about as quick as a steak taken off the
grill in cold weather. Hunters know that they cool off
pretty quick. Certainly would not retain heat all night
long. Could provide shelter though.
OK, I guess. It appeared to have been lots of work to make.
Leo did a good job.
