Maybe because I was a young buck or something? Maybe it was getting put
in the tepid water after I got home? I don't know. We started working on
the snowmobiles around midnight, and rigged them up on boards on top of
the slush around 2AM. Got home around 3AM, at which point we were doing
the tub/water thing.
It was pretty traumatic.
bp
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On 1/17/2016 7:17 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
If you had skin fall of that is frostbite. Maybe not a severe case but
worse than I had. I could barely walk for about two weeks.
On Sun, Jan 17, 2016, 9:08 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'd never heard of frostnip. They did turn color over the soles,
so maybe it was just the beginning. I remember my feet being
really sensitive for a while afterward, and skin did sluff off the
bottoms. No toe damage other than the darker color (not black, and
I didn't lose any toes). They look kind of normal now.
bp
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On 1/17/2016 6:22 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
Unless your skin turned black it wasn't frostbite, it was
frostnip. I have had it twice and it still hurts like hell but
the skin doesn't die off. It does permanently change though. My
toes still have a shiney, slick appearance they didn't have before.
But I'll give you this, as long as you never thaw those
extremeties you can operate at a decent level. Once thawed and
you actually have had some nerve damage it is impossible to walk,
for instance, without looking like you are barefoot on sharp glass.
Having said all that I hadn't considered that maybe the real
story had them frozen the entire time and then just had to get
various parts cut off.
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 9:44 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
It's not impossible to be in freezing water for longer
periods of time.
When I was a teenager, I and a friend got a couple of
snowmobiles stuck in 18" of frozen slush when the temp was
between -10 and -20 (about -10 when we got the snowmobiles
stuck, and about -20 two hours later when we gave up trying
to get them completely out).
We both fell in several times, and when we got back to the
nearby cabin we were both near hypothermia. My jeans were
coated with about a 1" thick layer of ice, and my boots had
frozen to my feet.
When my Dad got me home, my parents had to cut off both the
jeans and the boots. They put me in a tub of tepid water
until I started looking more normal. I did suffer some
frostbite, and my feet still get cold faster than about any
other part of my body.
None-the-less, I am living proof you can get wet in freezing
water, and survive at least a couple of hours.
bp
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On 1/16/2016 4:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Yep, I was in 32 degree water with ice floating on it two
times. Once for about 90 seconds and once for about 2
minutes. It is an emergency for certain.
*From:* Lewis Bergman <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Saturday, January 16, 2016 4:38 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review - minor spoiler
Yea. The most obvious flaw was the ability to jump out of
freezing water and just traipse around. You have to at least
strip down and get dry clothes on to survive.
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 5:29 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Revenant
Things bugged me in Gravity.
Similar things bugged me in Revenant.
While a true story, they were oblivious to the effect of
hypothermia and cold water exposure in the winter.
And that old story of climbing inside the carcass of a
large mammal to get warm has been proven false many
times. The animal gets cold about as quick as a steak
taken off the grill in cold weather. Hunters know that
they cool off pretty quick. Certainly would not retain
heat all night long. Could provide shelter though.
OK, I guess. It appeared to have been lots of work to
make. Leo did a good job.
