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On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

> Grey market vendors are fine, that's where everybody else is getting
> theirs. $10/ip
> On Jan 19, 2016 11:57 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.
>>
>>
>>
>> But I can’t.
>>
>>
>>
>> ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was
>> no way to obtain it.
>>
>> I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much
>> as possible to avoid crap like this.
>>
>> I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.
>>
>> But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some
>> foreign country, lol!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
>> blocked Netflix
>>
>>
>>
>> Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take
>> your correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. From
>> Netflix's perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space
>> are more likely to contain VPN endpoints.
>>
>> I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> It may be that.
>>
>>
>>
>> I get my IPv4 from a data center.
>>
>> They are my upstream provider.
>>
>> The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.
>>
>>
>>
>> I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a
>> year ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the
>> same time.
>>
>>
>>
>> All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer
>> have issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
>> blocked Netflix
>>
>>
>>
>> If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks
>> from?  That may be part of the story.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]>
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
>> blocked Netflix
>>
>>
>>
>> Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.
>>
>>
>>
>> So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.
>>
>>
>>
>> Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me?
>>
>> Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it.
>>
>>
>>
>> I just got off the phone. They asked me to email them my ASN, upstream
>> and details.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hopefully they pull their heads out and get this working.
>>
>>
>>
>> Not like I can request a IPv4 block directly from ARIN.
>>
>> I DID that and they denied saying they have no more.
>>
>>
>>
>> So I’m stuck without their help.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *timothy steele
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:48 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
>> blocked Netflix
>>
>>
>>
>> Netflix is working on banning all proxy and most VPN users was on
>> Engadget over a month ago there content providers are forcing  them so when
>> there telling you nothing they can do to help there telling the truth
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016, 8:37 PM Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Also reach out to Netflix on twitter, tell them you are a US ISP and your
>> users are having issues watching content
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2016 7:25 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Try NANOG?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2016 8:23 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone else start getting these calls today?
>>
>> My personal Netflix, on the same public IP block, seems to still work.
>>
>> But several of my customers are now calling in saying their Netflix is
>> VPN, Proxy or using an Unblocker.
>>
>> Netflix is denying any sort of fix or solution for these customers,
>> blaming it on the ISP.
>>
>> I'm sick of this crap.
>>
>> The customers don't care, they will just drop the ISP and get another,
>> probably with IP blocks that aren't 'blacklisted' as VPN, or going through
>> a datacenter.
>>
>> I had the same problem with Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com Disney.com and several
>> others.
>>
>> Fortunately, all of those companies, except Vudu, fixed my problem by
>> whitelisting my IPs.
>>
>> Vudu took a long time but I think I finally got a hold of the correct
>> team of engineers and they fixed it.
>>
>> On the phone now with Netflix rep and one of her first questions was,
>> "What is a public IP block?"
>>
>> :(
>>
>>
>>
>

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