Josh, what are you using for your IPTV?  If you can say

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From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 4:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber financing / loans? How are you paying for it.

You're not really having to change out equipment for one. It's an investment. 
It's also completely possible for a single strand of glass in the ground to 
carry more than 6Tbps of bandwidth.

That said, we will be selling IPTV and Phone as well. Our average user plan 
will probably be around $124-$145/mo. Some will be higher, some lower.

We are selling local service, reliability (design, hot spares, cold spares), 
and no hidden costs or fees. What you pay for is what you get (minimum of 
125Mbps on the up to 1Gbps plan, only exception). If they want cheap shit that 
sometimes works and has problems at peak, they can pick a cable operator.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Peter Kranz <[email protected]> wrote:
> How do you make money at $2k per sub? If the sub is paying $49/month 
> for internet, that will take forever to pay off.
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> Peter Kranz
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> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:51 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber financing / loans? How are you paying for it.
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> If I do a simple calculation of money invested/loaned and number of 
> subs I get $2088 per sub.
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> That’s active Ethernet, full burial conduit to each house/unit with 
> lots of miles of overbuild and miles and miles of extra fiber/conduit.
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> We also build at cost, not full retail (partners are build crews).
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> I expect from here on out to be nearer half that using existing 
> infrastructure and possibly GPON.
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> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:44 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber financing / loans? How are you paying for it.
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> How are all of you fiber guys paying to get this stuff in the ground ? 
> All self financing ?
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> What is a good estimate to bore say 100 or 500 houses passed in a 
> suburban neighborhood that's all asphalt and concrete sidewalks with 
> ~5000sqft lots for pon? I know it could vary vastly but just a ball 
> park ? $1000 per house passed ?

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