We're getting quoted $4-5/ft. I agree, hard to make those numbers work when you own the machines. We're actually going to do a project contracted out at $4/ft...let you know how it goes. I think our per customer costs are going to definitely be less than $1,000/customer (more in the $700 range), especially with PON because we are passing hundreds of homes. Most homes have about 90' of road frontage, so our bore cost should be <$400 for the mainline in front of the house, and $60 for the drop per customer.
Regards, Chuck On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 11:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Even when I owned a boring machine, hard to make a cost like that work out. > I figured depreciation reserve, time value of investment and opportunity > cost. > Labor, consumables, repairs etc etc. > > I suppose if you keep it busy all the time digging in nothing but dirt it > might come out there. > > *From:* Chris Fabien <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 7:48 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber financing / loans? How are you paying for it. > > > I've been quoted $5/ft around here by contractor in a rural area. If you > are urban or congested area it'll be more. > On Jan 20, 2016 6:36 PM, "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> It complely depends on who you have quote it. I've been quoted anywhere >> from $5 to $15 / ft for a rural bore. I'm currently paying about $6 / ft >> with duct included - 100ft minimum. >> >> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Tim Reichhart < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Jason >>> how much does it cost for contractors to do this? >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: 01/20/16 06:16 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber financing / loans? How are you paying for it. >>> >>> Very true. I found it cheaper to use contractors. >>> >>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Partner with a drilling and fiber pull/splice company? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Fiber requires a LOT of crew and machinery that WISPs don't have and >>>> are not trained to operate. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> You could do small jobs and pay retail on the fiber construction. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Backhaul with high capacity wireless into areas and bury/hang fiber >>>> (how I started). >>>> >>>> Then fill in with middle mile fiber down the road. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Or do the reverse and backhaul with fiber and stick with high capacity >>>> wireless for last mile (Vivint?) >>>> >>>> Then fill in with fiber to the home later. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The capital required to run a crew to do fiber is pretty high. >>>> >>>> And that doesn't get you any actual fiber in the ground, that's also >>>> very capital intensive on top of that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Salary is the hard part. Keeping large crews happy in down time is >>>> where problems arise. >>>> >>>> Double training staff might work, but I haven't seen much of that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> There is a LOT of money to be had in owning and operating a good >>>> drilling and fiber crew around here. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] >>>> <http://noscript..._e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');/>] *On >>>> Behalf Of* Graham McIntire >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:50 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> <http://noscript..._e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');/> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber financing / loans? How are you paying for >>>> it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm curious as well as to what equipment we need to go from 100% pure >>>> WISP to doing fiber as well. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 4:44 PM, TJ Trout <[email protected] >>>> <http://noscript..._e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');/>> wrote: >>>> >>>> How are all of you fiber guys paying to get this stuff in the ground ? >>>> All self financing ? >>>> >>>> What is a good estimate to bore say 100 or 500 houses passed in a >>>> suburban neighborhood that's all asphalt and concrete sidewalks with >>>> ~5000sqft lots for pon? I know it could vary vastly but just a ball park ? >>>> $1000 per house passed ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>
