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> On Jan 21, 2016, at 5:29 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Linux kernel errors (critical ones) normally cause an auto-reboot in most 
> cases.
> 
> Driver errors normally do not. Keep that in mind...
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I laugh through this whole thread because we're bitching about the unit
>> having a problem which it detects and corrects with no intervention from the
>> operator.�
>> 
>> There is a lot of equipment out there (I don't need to name names) that
>> would sit there being broken until you reset the power on it.
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/21/2016 5:21 PM, Stefan Englhardt wrote:
>> 
>> I don�t blame MT and UBNT any longer for their non existing quality
>> assurance division.
>> 
>> Sounds beta quality �
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> Von: Af [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Brian Sullivan
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Januar 2016 23:11
>> An: [email protected]
>> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 Watchdog resets - was: To Cambium With
>> Love- Replace the bad ePMP units.
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> I was assured today that the issue isn't the hardware.� Evidently this
>> issue can be solved with an upcoming software upgrade.
>> Time will tell.
>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/13-2-to-13-4-System-Reset-Exception-Watchdog-Reset/td-p/43347/page/2
>> 
>> On 1/21/2016 4:02 PM, Joe Falaschi wrote:
>> 
>> We have some APs that have uptime over 60 days but many reboot every 1-3
>> weeks. �This is definitely an outlier. �We've been in contact with
>> Cambium on this via an open ticket and sending them all of the information
>> they request and nobody has said oh gosh that is bad hardware RMA it. �So,
>> we're just going around and around. �We'll end up just replacing it and
>> hoping they will take it back because obviously this is bad. �We are
>> running 14.x per their request. �We saw this on 13.x as well.
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> On Jan 21, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Joe, that is seriously bad.� I see watchdog resets and a few stack dumps,
>> but uptime on 450 APs is typically 2-4 weeks, despite the recent cold
>> weather, in fact I don�t think it has been more common than it was last
>> summer.� I have not gone to 14.x though, everything is still on 13.2.
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> So either you have a bad unit, or 14.x is making it much worse.� If
>> everyone was seeing resets every few minutes or hours, I think there would
>> be villagers with torches and pitchforks outside Cambium HQ.
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> Brian from FVI does have a thread on the Cambium Community about this.
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> FWIW, I have one 450i 900 MHz which necessarily is on 14.1, and it does not
>> appear to be having watchdog resets.� Lightly loaded however, just 2 subs.
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> From: Joe Falaschi
>> 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 11:34 AM
>> 
>> To: [email protected]
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 Watchdog resets - was: To Cambium With
>> Love- Replace the bad ePMP units.
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> We see a ton of reboots on the 450 platform as well.� It's getting pretty
>> frustrating simply because this is such a long term issue.� One of my APs
>> has rebooted 195 times (now running 14.1.2).� They are saying we should
>> replace the AP but it is unclear if we can RMA it or not.� We do have an
>> open ticket.
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> Joe Falaschi
>> 
>> e-vergent
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> �
>> 
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>> 
>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 9:26 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hum�� sounds very similar.�� It�s temperature sensitive as well -
>> gets far worse with low temperatures, and we are having pretty cold temps
>> this week.��
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> Extremely frustrating and causing real customer complaints.
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 9:28 PM, Tushar Patel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> Over two years we have been seeing random reboot. We were told over and over
>> again you are the only one.� Then few people started reporting.
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> But cambium never could get bottom of the problems for two years so, I gave
>> up on cambium fixing this random reboot.� We stop calling them about it.
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> As the new versions of the software has come out over two years we have see
>> the frequency of the problem reduce but not gone away.
>> 
>> Tushar
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 6:25 PM, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Tushar,
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> What did you give up on?�� Or do?
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> Please note the mailing and shipping address change below:
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> Mark Radabaugh
>> Amplex
>> 22690 Pemberville Rd
>> 
>> Luckey, OH 43443
>> 419-837-5015 x1021
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Tushar Patel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> That's what they used to tell us too.� We have given up on the subject
>> now.
>> 
>> Tushar
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Wait - they keep telling us we are the only ones that this happens to with
>> 450?
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> So who else is having reboot-o-rama with 450�s?
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Brian Sullivan <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> I wish they would fix/replace the bad 450 AP's that suffer from Watchdog
>> Resets.�
>> Although replacing 100 450 AP's is cheaper than ePMP.� :-/
>> 
>> On 1/20/2016 12:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> 
>> Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Cambium,
>> 
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs
>> compared notes on the �cold weather� problems we are seeing with
>> ePMPs.� It was very interesting to learn we are experience identical
>> problems across the spectrum.
>> 
>> We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have
>> identified.� We also understand the firmware RC that has been made
>> available to fix this short term.
>> 
>> The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with
>> it.�
>> 
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> Our concern is simple.� If your software fix �degrades� the
>> performance of the product or triggers other issues, as it has been
>> suggested, we would prefer a full recall and replacement program
>> immediately.
>> 
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is
>> inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made
>> public.�
>> 
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
>> �
>> 
>> Tyson Burris, President
>> Internet Communications Inc.
>> 739 Commerce Dr.
>> Franklin, IN 46131
>> �
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