Haha, so true.

I’m thinking how people get bent out of shape if their Internet blips for a 
minute, but I have AT&T UVerse at home and it is fairly common to have to go in 
the basement and press the reset or power button on the modem.  The set top box 
does however show a screen on the TV suggesting you do that.


From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 4:26 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 Watchdog resets - was: To Cambium With Love- 
Replace the bad ePMP units.

I laugh through this whole thread because we're bitching about the unit having 
a problem which it detects and corrects with no intervention from the 
operator.� 

There is a lot of equipment out there (I don't need to name names) that would 
sit there being broken until you reset the power on it.



On 1/21/2016 5:21 PM, Stefan Englhardt wrote:

  I don�t blame MT and UBNT any longer for their non existing quality 
assurance division.

  Sounds beta quality �

  �

  Von: Af [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Brian Sullivan
  Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Januar 2016 23:11
  An: [email protected]
  Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 Watchdog resets - was: To Cambium With Love- 
Replace the bad ePMP units.

  �

  I was assured today that the issue isn't the hardware.� Evidently this 
issue can be solved with an upcoming software upgrade.
  Time will tell.
  
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/13-2-to-13-4-System-Reset-Exception-Watchdog-Reset/td-p/43347/page/2

  On 1/21/2016 4:02 PM, Joe Falaschi wrote:

    We have some APs that have uptime over 60 days but many reboot every 1-3 
weeks. �This is definitely an outlier. �We've been in contact with Cambium 
on this via an open ticket and sending them all of the information they request 
and nobody has said oh gosh that is bad hardware RMA it. �So, we're just 
going around and around. �We'll end up just replacing it and hoping they will 
take it back because obviously this is bad. �We are running 14.x per their 
request. �We saw this on 13.x as well. 

    �

    Joe

    �

    �

    On Jan 21, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:





      Joe, that is seriously bad.� I see watchdog resets and a few stack 
dumps, but uptime on 450 APs is typically 2-4 weeks, despite the recent cold 
weather, in fact I don�t think it has been more common than it was last 
summer.� I have not gone to 14.x though, everything is still on 13.2.

      �

      So either you have a bad unit, or 14.x is making it much worse.� If 
everyone was seeing resets every few minutes or hours, I think there would be 
villagers with torches and pitchforks outside Cambium HQ.

      �

      Brian from FVI does have a thread on the Cambium Community about this.

      �

      FWIW, I have one 450i 900 MHz which necessarily is on 14.1, and it does 
not appear to be having watchdog resets.� Lightly loaded however, just 2 subs.

      �

      �

      From: Joe Falaschi 

      Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 11:34 AM

      To: [email protected] 

      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 Watchdog resets - was: To Cambium With 
Love- Replace the bad ePMP units.

      �

      We see a ton of reboots on the 450 platform as well.� It's getting 
pretty frustrating simply because this is such a long term issue.� One of my 
APs has rebooted 195 times (now running 14.1.2).� They are saying we should 
replace the AP but it is unclear if we can RMA it or not.� We do have an open 
ticket. 

      �

      Joe Falaschi

      e-vergent

      �

      �

      �

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      On Jan 20, 2016, at 9:26 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:





        Hum�� sounds very similar.�� It�s temperature sensitive as 
well - gets far worse with low temperatures, and we are having pretty cold 
temps this week.�� 

        �

        Extremely frustrating and causing real customer complaints.

        �

        Mark

        �

          On Jan 20, 2016, at 9:28 PM, Tushar Patel <[email protected]> wrote:

          �

          Over two years we have been seeing random reboot. We were told over 
and over again you are the only one.� Then few people started reporting.

          �

          But cambium never could get bottom of the problems for two years so, 
I gave up on cambium fixing this random reboot.� We stop calling them about 
it. 

          �

          As the new versions of the software has come out over two years we 
have see the frequency of the problem reduce but not gone away.

          Tushar 

          �


          On Jan 20, 2016, at 6:25 PM, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote:

            Tushar, 

            �

            What did you give up on?�� Or do?

            �

            Please note the mailing and shipping address change below:

            �

            Mark Radabaugh
            Amplex
            22690 Pemberville Rd

            Luckey, OH 43443
            419-837-5015 x1021
            [email protected]

            �

              On Jan 20, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Tushar Patel <[email protected]> wrote:

              �

              That's what they used to tell us too.� We have given up on the 
subject now. 

              Tushar 

              �


              On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                Wait - they keep telling us we are the only ones that this 
happens to with 450?

                �

                So who else is having reboot-o-rama with 450�s?

                �

                Mark

                �

                  On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Brian Sullivan 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                  �

                  I wish they would fix/replace the bad 450 AP's that suffer 
from Watchdog Resets.� 
                  Although replacing 100 450 AP's is cheaper than ePMP.� :-/

                  On 1/20/2016 12:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

                    Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?

                    �

                    �

                    Josh Luthman
                    Office: 937-552-2340
                    Direct: 937-552-2343
                    1100 Wayne St
                    Suite 1337
                    Troy, OH 45373

                    �

                    On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet 
Communications Inc <[email protected]> wrote:

                      Hello Cambium,


                      �

                      At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us 
Indiana WISPs compared notes on the �cold weather� problems we are seeing 
with ePMPs.� It was very interesting to learn we are experience identical 
problems across the spectrum. 

                      We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units 
you have identified.� We also understand the firmware RC that has been made 
available to fix this short term.

                      The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired 
of dealing with it.� 


                      �

                      Our concern is simple.� If your software fix 
�degrades� the performance of the product or triggers other issues, as it 
has been suggested, we would prefer a full recall and replacement program 
immediately.


                      �

                      If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product 
performance is inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to 
be made public.� 


                      �

                      Thank you,


                      �

                      Tyson Burris, President 
                      Internet Communications Inc. 
                      739 Commerce Dr. 
                      Franklin, IN 46131 
                      � 
                      317-738-0320 Daytime # 
                      317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
                      Online: www.surfici.net 


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