If you want to see something REALLY scary, even scarier than the 220VAC hot-water-showerheads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EViyccc2t9w it's not even a resistive coil heater, it simply applies AC electricity directly to the water. On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote: > You wouldn't do well in South America. The shower heads are 220v heat on > demand and all seem to have two temperatures, ice cold or scald the hell > out of you. Always made me nervous seeing two wires running into the wall > from the same device where my water was coming out. I said a little prayer > every time I got in the shower just in case I was found dead and naked with > what was left of my hair on fire. > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 11:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I know its a stupid fear, but I have never liked mixing water and >> electricity for hot water. Im "that guy" who works on things live quite >> often because "it will just take a minute". I could knock in my chimney >> instead of fixing the flashing to stop the leak if I switched to an >> electric water heater for about the same cost as the flashing work (when I >> flash, I flash things for life... and because the movie sucked, but thats a >> different topic). I just foresee our city water having dissolve the liner >> and me down there at three in the morning half drunk (well sh%^face) with >> my metal leatheman and no shoes dicking around with it in my boxers and >> then next thing you know, Imin the ER with some broad trying to shove a >> tube up my crank. >> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Pretty much every washing machine in the UK and continental Europe is >>> like that, and the Samsung or LG machines imported into 230V-using Arabian >>> peninsular countries, Pakistan, India, etc. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Didn’t know such a thing existed. >>>> >>>> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 9:44 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing? >>>> >>>> One of the great things about having 230V 15A circuits in a house, you >>>> can install a front loading washing machine that electrically heats its own >>>> water as it fills, on demand. Only requires a cold water connection, drain, >>>> and electricity. No hot water hookup at all. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks, I learned a few things. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Nate Burke <[email protected]> >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:49 PM >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing? >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEfP1OKKz_Q >>>>> >>>>> On 1/21/2016 4:48 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have a daughter that lives in the UK. Never understood why they >>>>> need to be so large, why they have a switch. Seems like unnecessary cost >>>>> etc. Fused plug is just one more thing to fail and cost you. >>>>> >>>>> I do like 220 everywhere. I wonder if it is referenced to earth >>>>> ground? >>>>> Seems like it would be safer to float it. And with 220 your wires can >>>>> be so much smaller. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:42 PM >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing? >>>>> >>>>> If we really wanted everything to be safe we would use shuttered >>>>> BS1363 (UK code) receptacles with fused plugs, even for 120VAC 15A >>>>> circuits. >>>>> >>>>> Most people in the US have never worked with them, but they're very >>>>> mechanically robust and safe. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=BS1363&num=100&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjSxv2F_bvKAhULzGMKHVtQCg8Q_AUIBygB&biw=1473&bih=1004 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 1:39 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We added an addition to the quarters at the ambulance I worked for, I >>>>>> came in just as the electircian was finishing up and saw them all ground >>>>>> up. I told him I didnt want to be "that guy" but they were upside down. >>>>>> He >>>>>> explained the reason, said it was code too, but ive never verified that, >>>>>> but the reason makes sense, so ground up ever since for me >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree with the often/soften thing... unless you pronounce soften >>>>>>> wrong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know I am in the minority on this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Same as the proper way to pronounce the word “often”. >>>>>>>> (Rhymes with soften). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am OK with being totally right and nobody agreeing with me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:15 PM >>>>>>>> *To:* af <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is definitely not upside down! what is wrong with you... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yeah, probably no box, just drywall for the photo. >>>>>>>>> But I would say the receptacle is upside down too. >>>>>>>>> (that is a PC vs apple, red state vs blue state kind of thing) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:11 PM >>>>>>>>> *To:* af <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also, the way that outlet is mounted is... nice! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Mathew Howard < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure Chuck is right... a mouse is the first thing that >>>>>>>>>> came to my mind. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I’m gonna get that mouse! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 1:41 PM >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] whats this guy doing? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/3-16-inch-x-33-ft-fiberglass-wire-running-kit-65326.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Click the picture of the guy at the outlet. Somebody tell us >>>>>>>>>>> what the hell he is doing >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see >>>>>>>>>>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of >>>>>>>>>>> the team. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> > >
