I built a hot dog cooker when I was in the 4th grade that did the same thing.  
Worked great.

From: Eric Kuhnke 
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 5:59 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?

If you want to see something REALLY scary, even scarier than the 220VAC 
hot-water-showerheads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EViyccc2t9w


it's not even a resistive coil heater, it simply applies AC electricity 
directly to the water.


On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote:

  You wouldn't do well in South America. The shower heads are 220v heat on 
demand and all seem to have two temperatures, ice cold or scald the hell out of 
you. Always made me nervous seeing two wires running into the wall from the 
same device where my water was coming out.  I said a little prayer every time I 
got in the shower just in case I was found dead and naked with what was left of 
my hair on fire. 

  On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 11:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
<[email protected]> wrote:

    I know its a stupid fear, but I have never liked mixing water and 
electricity for hot water. Im "that guy" who works on things live quite often 
because "it will just take a minute". I could knock in my chimney instead of 
fixing the flashing to stop the leak if I switched to an electric water heater 
for about the same cost as the flashing work (when I flash, I flash things for 
life... and because the movie sucked, but thats a different topic). I just 
foresee our city water having dissolve the liner and me down there at three in 
the morning half drunk (well sh%^face) with my metal leatheman and no shoes 
dicking around with it in my boxers and then next thing you know, Imin the ER 
with some broad trying to shove a tube up my crank.

    On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> wrote:

      Pretty much every washing machine in the UK and continental Europe is 
like that, and the Samsung or LG machines imported into 230V-using Arabian 
peninsular countries, Pakistan, India, etc.



      On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

        Didn’t know such a thing existed.

        From: Eric Kuhnke 
        Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:44 AM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?

        One of the great things about having 230V 15A circuits in a house, you 
can install a front loading washing machine that electrically heats its own 
water as it fills, on demand. Only requires a cold water connection, drain, and 
electricity. No hot water hookup at all. 


        On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

          Thanks, I learned a few things.  

          From: Nate Burke 
          Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:49 PM
          To: [email protected] 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEfP1OKKz_Q


          On 1/21/2016 4:48 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

            I have a daughter that lives in the UK.  Never understood why they 
need to be so large, why they have a switch.  Seems like unnecessary cost etc.  
Fused plug is just one more thing to fail and cost you.  

            I do like 220 everywhere.  I wonder if it is referenced to earth 
ground?
            Seems like it would be safer to float it.  And with 220 your wires 
can be so much smaller.  

            From: Eric Kuhnke 
            Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:42 PM
            To: [email protected] 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?

            If we really wanted everything to be safe we would use shuttered 
BS1363 (UK code) receptacles with fused plugs, even for 120VAC 15A circuits.


            Most people in the US have never worked with them, but they're very 
mechanically robust and safe.

            
https://www.google.ca/search?q=BS1363&num=100&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjSxv2F_bvKAhULzGMKHVtQCg8Q_AUIBygB&biw=1473&bih=1004


             


            On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 1:39 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
<[email protected]> wrote:

              We added an addition to the quarters at the ambulance I worked 
for, I came in just as the electircian was finishing up and saw them all ground 
up. I told him I didnt want to be "that guy" but they were upside down. He 
explained the reason, said it was code too, but ive never verified that, but 
the reason makes sense, so ground up ever since for me

              On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Mathew Howard 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                I agree with the often/soften thing... unless you pronounce 
soften wrong.


                On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                  I know I am in the minority on this.

                  Same as the proper way to pronounce the word “often”.
                  (Rhymes with soften).  

                  I am OK with being totally right and nobody agreeing with me. 
 

                  From: Mathew Howard 
                  Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:15 PM
                  To: af 
                  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?

                  It is definitely not upside down! what is wrong with you...


                  On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Chuck McCown 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                    Yeah, probably no box, just drywall for the photo.
                    But I would say the receptacle is upside down too.  
                    (that is a PC vs apple, red state vs blue state kind of 
thing)

                    From: Mathew Howard 
                    Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:11 PM
                    To: af 
                    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?

                    Also, the way that outlet is mounted is... nice!


                    On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Mathew Howard 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                      I'm pretty sure Chuck is right... a mouse is the first 
thing that came to my mind.


                      On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                        I’m gonna get that mouse!

                        From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
                        Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 1:41 PM
                        To: [email protected] 
                        Subject: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?

                        
http://www.harborfreight.com/3-16-inch-x-33-ft-fiberglass-wire-running-kit-65326.html
 

                        Click the picture of the guy at the outlet. Somebody 
tell us what the hell he is doing


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