Pretty much every washing machine in the UK and continental Europe is like
that, and the Samsung or LG machines imported into 230V-using Arabian
peninsular countries, Pakistan, India, etc.


On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> Didn’t know such a thing existed.
>
> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 9:44 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?
>
> One of the great things about having 230V 15A circuits in a house, you can
> install a front loading washing machine that electrically heats its own
> water as it fills, on demand. Only requires a cold water connection, drain,
> and electricity. No hot water hookup at all.
>
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, I learned a few things.
>>
>> *From:* Nate Burke <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:49 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEfP1OKKz_Q
>>
>> On 1/21/2016 4:48 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> I have a daughter that lives in the UK.  Never understood why they need
>> to be so large, why they have a switch.  Seems like unnecessary cost etc.
>> Fused plug is just one more thing to fail and cost you.
>>
>> I do like 220 everywhere.  I wonder if it is referenced to earth ground?
>> Seems like it would be safer to float it.  And with 220 your wires can be
>> so much smaller.
>>
>> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:42 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?
>>
>> If we really wanted everything to be safe we would use shuttered BS1363
>> (UK code) receptacles with fused plugs, even for 120VAC 15A circuits.
>>
>> Most people in the US have never worked with them, but they're very
>> mechanically robust and safe.
>>
>>
>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=BS1363&num=100&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjSxv2F_bvKAhULzGMKHVtQCg8Q_AUIBygB&biw=1473&bih=1004
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 1:39 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> We added an addition to the quarters at the ambulance I worked for, I
>>> came in just as the electircian was finishing up and saw them all ground
>>> up. I told him I didnt want to be "that guy" but they were upside down. He
>>> explained the reason, said it was code too, but ive never verified that,
>>> but the reason makes sense, so ground up ever since for me
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree with the often/soften thing... unless you pronounce soften
>>>> wrong.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know I am in the minority on this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same as the proper way to pronounce the word “often”.
>>>>> (Rhymes with soften).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am OK with being totally right and nobody agreeing with me.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:15 PM
>>>>> *To:* af <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?
>>>>>
>>>>> It is definitely not upside down! what is wrong with you...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, probably no box, just drywall for the photo.
>>>>>> But I would say the receptacle is upside down too.
>>>>>> (that is a PC vs apple, red state vs blue state kind of thing)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:11 PM
>>>>>> *To:* af <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, the way that outlet is mounted is... nice!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure Chuck is right... a mouse is the first thing that
>>>>>>> came to my mind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m gonna get that mouse!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 1:41 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/3-16-inch-x-33-ft-fiberglass-wire-running-kit-65326.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Click the picture of the guy at the outlet. Somebody tell us what
>>>>>>>> the hell he is doing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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