They gave me a ~35' dinky cable that extends the GPS dongle.  No idea what
connector it is, it simply pops together.  I'd like to have ~100' of some
kind of cable to reach the outside.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Sam Kirsch <sam...@plexicomm.net> wrote:

> Unfortunately I don't know all the specifics on that part Josh offhand, my
> part in this was troubleshooting why the basement didn't have cell service
> on Verizon and how to get them service, I just told the field team I needed
> to get the GPS signal from the roof.  I believe they used a connector to
> switch to a different cable type that allowed them to run it to the roof
> without too much attenuation (unless that plan fell through and they ended
> up doing something entirely different and never updated me - which is also
> very possible).  But the external antenna that comes with the SCS wouldn't
> make it from where we had to install the unit to any exterior wall or the
> roof 6 floors up.
>
>
>
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> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Sent: 2/9/2016 1:33:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>
>
> How did you get a GPS antenna from the roof to the SCS box?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 1:28 PM, samuel <sam...@plexicomm.net> wrote:
>
>> Verizon's Samsung SCS series 3G and 4G Network Extender is what I was
>> dealing with.  We had to run our own GPS antenna from the roof down to the
>> basement to get the damn thing to sync properly.
>>
>> As an aside, I didn't realize the Low E windows were code now, and this
>> is a very newly renovated building.  Will keep that in mind!
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Sam Kirsch, Network Tech Support
>> Plexicomm Internet Solutions
>> Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688
>>
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
>> Date: 02/09/16 10:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>>
>> cell booster or gps booster?
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Sam Kirsch <sam...@plexicomm.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Pull out a GPS App on your phone and make sure you can actually read the
>>> satellites from behind the window (I used 'GPS Test' on Android). We had to
>>> install one of these boosters and were troubleshooting why the damn thing
>>> wasn't working when I noticed that my phone GPS receiver was working in
>>> rooms where the windows were open and not working in rooms where the
>>> windows were closed. Building management didn't even know they'd purchased
>>> the windows with RF film.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *-- Samuel Kirsch, Network SupportPlexicomm - Internet Solutions |
>>> www.plexicomm.net <http://www.plexicomm.net/>*
>>> *Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688*
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: 2/9/2016 9:50:42 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>>>
>>>
>>> It might not be just a matter of getting the location. If they use the
>>> 1pps clock from GPS to calibrate an oscillator before they start
>>> transmitting, then it would legitimately take 20-30 minutes.
>>>
>>> Telrad BTS's are like that too. Pisses me off if I ever have to reset
>>> the power.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/9/2016 12:12 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>>
>>> For whatever reason, the receivers that they use in some of these don't
>>> seem to be "modern" at all. They frequently take an excessively long time
>>> to get a lock.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 8, 2016, Eric Kuhnke < <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>> eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Modern GPS receivers work surprisingly well, if not very accurately,
>>>> from inside a single floor wood framed house... My oneplus one will pick up
>>>> 6 satellites while standing in a central hallway 15'+ from any window.
>>>> Should be accurate enough to get a location within 75'.
>>>>
>>>> All bets are off if it is a concrete framed apartment building or
>>>> something like that.
>>>>
>>>> I still find it amazing that anything works at -162 RSL. Thanks to tiny
>>>> channel size and very basic modulation.
>>>>  On Feb 8, 2016 6:46 PM, "Bill Prince" <
>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','part15...@gmail.com');> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Canopy NAT seems to break it with regularity. It might also fail if
>>>>> the GPS location that it reports is not within a 1/4 mile of where the
>>>>> customer address is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also requires enough GPS (like near a window) to get a GPS lock.
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/8/2016 3:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What are the typical reasons for these not to work?� From the user
>>>>> guide it appears to use IPSEC, so I assume anything that prevents a VPN?
>>>>> �
>>>>> Verizon support told the customer they needed a Class A address.�
>>>>> WTF?� Did they maybe mean it *can't* be a class A address?�
>>>>> Customer uses 10.x.x.x addresses internally, behind Cisco ASA firewall
>>>>> (which I don't manage).
>>>>> �
>>>>> I do see some udp/500 and udp/4500 packets, I think that means
>>>>> something is using UDP for IPSEC NAT traversal?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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