Same idea as if you take a handheld dedicated GPS receiver (not one that
partially uses aGPS / cellular location based assistance) from one side of
the world to the other, powered off, and turn it on again...   can take
5-10 minutes to reacquire lock even when on a flat rooftop with view to 12
satellites.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

> It might not be just a matter of getting the location.  If they use the
> 1pps clock from GPS to calibrate an oscillator before they start
> transmitting, then it would legitimately take 20-30 minutes.
>
> Telrad BTS's are like that too.  Pisses me off if I ever have to reset the
> power.
>
>
>
> On 2/9/2016 12:12 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>
> For whatever reason, the receivers that they use in some of these don't
> seem to be "modern" at all. They frequently take an excessively long time
> to get a lock.
>
> On Monday, February 8, 2016, Eric Kuhnke < <[email protected]>
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Modern GPS receivers work surprisingly well, if not very accurately, from
>> inside a single floor wood framed house... My oneplus one will pick up 6
>> satellites while  standing in a central hallway 15'+ from any window.
>> Should be accurate enough to get a location within 75'.
>>
>> All bets are off if it is a concrete framed apartment building or
>> something like that.
>>
>> I still find it amazing that anything works at -162 RSL. Thanks to tiny
>> channel size and very basic modulation.
>> On Feb 8, 2016 6:46 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Canopy NAT seems to break it with regularity. It might also fail if the
>>> GPS location that it reports is not within a 1/4 mile of where the customer
>>> address is.
>>>
>>> Also requires enough GPS (like near a window) to get a GPS lock.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/8/2016 3:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> What are the typical reasons for these not to work?� From the user
>>> guide it appears to use IPSEC, so I assume anything that prevents a VPN?
>>> �
>>> Verizon support told the customer they needed a Class A address.�
>>> WTF?� Did they maybe mean it *can't* be a class A address?�
>>> Customer uses 10.x.x.x addresses internally, behind Cisco ASA firewall
>>> (which I don't manage).
>>> �
>>> I do see some udp/500 and udp/4500 packets, I think that means something
>>> is using UDP for IPSEC NAT traversal?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

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