I forgot about that. Yeah, mine have them too.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 11:06:10 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple Used to have your SSN on your dogtags. Just recently they have changed that to some other identification number used only within the DoD. On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 10:42 PM, Jay Weekley <[email protected]> wrote: > Me too. I wrote it on all my tests and papers. My social was posted in the > halls of many buildings next to my final grades. > > Chuck McCown wrote: >> >> When I was in college, my student ID was my SSN. Same for everyone. >> *From:* Bill Prince <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 6:13 PM >> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple >> The fudge packers at medicare use your SSN for the account number you are >> required to write on the check. >> >> They have no clue. >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 2/19/2016 5:05 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>> >>> >>> The last time I trusted the federal government with something very >>> important, they let my blood type, fingerprint, DNA, social security >>> number, >>> names numbers and addresses of relatives and friends, my wife's SSN, and >>> all >>> three of my kid's SSNs data get collected by a third party. >>> >>> Just an example. >>> >>> On Feb 19, 2016 7:01 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> If I have a business in Tooele, Utah, I have to have “Knox Box” >>> on the building with a key in it for the building. The fire >>> department has a key for all the knox boxes. Is that much more >>> invasive than unlocking your phone? Nobody is screaming about >>> that. Happens in many cities. >>> If you have windows in your house, anyone can punch one out and >>> get into your house. But you all have windows. >>> Cops can pull you over with probable cause now. >>> Are you suggesting that if the code gets released in the wild >>> cops are going to engage in an illegal search using this tool? >>> If they are going to mess with you they will simply plant >>> something on you. >>> If this code gets into the wild and is abused in this nature, >>> abut 50 milliseconds later there will be a new version of iOS >>> that will not work with it. >>> So, firemen can be trusted, right? More than the NSA? Drunken >>> fireman buddy with a cop that wants to use the knox box key can >>> be trusted? >>> The IRS can put all my banking and financial in the cloud now as >>> can my bank. A disgruntled employee is all it would take. The >>> bank and the IRS are more trustworthy than the NSA? >>> I don’t have any family pictures that I would be worried if they >>> got published. I am just not catching this paranoid cynicism >>> that seems to be attached to this issue. >>> *From:* Travis Johnson <mailto:[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 5:36 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple >>> What if this path continues, and in the future the police officer >>> that just pulled you over for speeding, suspects you might be up >>> to something else... so he then takes your phone, unlocks it from >>> his car, downloads everything to his laptop, and then sends it >>> off to be inspected? Do you want all your private information >>> (banking, financial, family pictures, etc.) now "in the cloud" >>> for anyone with access to see? >>> >>> Travis >>> >>> On 2/19/2016 5:23 PM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> What is wrong with the FBI having this ability?� How does that >>>> have a negative impact on me? >>>> I could argue that it has a positive benefit to the nation.� >>>> � >>>> *From:* Travis Johnson <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 5:15 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple >>>> >>>> � >>>> I don't think that's the case.... do you really see the FBI >>>> turning the phone over to Apple? What happens if Apple comes >>>> back a week later and says "oops, sorry... we nuked it". The FBI >>>> wants Apple to write a new IOS version that will not erase the >>>> phone after 10 attempts at the login code. Then the FBI would >>>> load that onto the phone, and attempt to brute force the phone >>>> combo. >>>> >>>> At that point, the FBI could do that to any phone in the future >>>> as well. >>>> >>>> Apple is doing the right thing here. >>>> >>>> Travis >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/19/2016 4:05 PM, George Skorup wrote: >>>>> >>>>> As I understand it, that is exactly what the gov is asking them >>>>> for. FBI wants Apple to decrypt and send over the data. Nothing >>>>> more. No "software on every phone" to do this. Just that ONE >>>>> phone. Get the data, then incinerate the device. >>>>> >>>>> On 2/19/2016 4:59 PM, Nate Burke wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> But they're not actually asking for a back door, are they?� >>>>>> They're just saying 'hey, we have this physical device, can we >>>>>> give it to you, and you get us the data off of it'?� I've >>>>>> got to think that the Engineers at apple have a way to do this >>>>>> thought up.� >>>>>> >>>>>> Although at the same time, If they're trying to unlock the >>>>>> phone, couldn't the Gov't with it's vast resources, just >>>>>> simply make a bit by bit copy of the flash chip in the phone >>>>>> and just go through and try every unlock code? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/19/2016 4:54 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yup. Google agrees as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2016 4:52 PM, "Sam Lambie" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Screw the govt. Apple is doing entirely doing the right >>>>>>> thing. >>>>>>> � >>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Nate Burke >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My Boss and I just had a discussion about this, he >>>>>>> think that Cook should be in Jail for failing to >>>>>>> comply with the order.� >>>>>>> � >>>>>>> On 2/19/2016 4:46 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ... What? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Seriously? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2016 4:44 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Treason? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- -- *Sam Lambie* >>>>>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech. >>>>>>> 575-758-7598 <tel:575-758-7598> Office >>>>>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
