True, getting it decided in the courts is the best outcome.
I'm still not convinced that this is anything more than a
publicity stunt on Apples side. If Apple has the ability to
create a way to unlock it, and they haven't said that they can't
do it, how is that any different from them already having it? And
why is it any better for Apple to have the ability to crack
iPhones than the FBI? Now, I certainly don't trust the
government, but they've pretty much always had the ability to
look at anything and everything we have in this sort of an
investigation.
This is basically the equivalent of the FBI finding a safe with a
built in safe that has a built in self destruct feature and
telling the company that built it to disable the self destruct,
so they can try cracking it... they aren't asking them to put a
camera in every safe they build so that they can look inside
whenever they want, which is what a lot of people seem to be
making this out to be.
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Chuck Macenski
<[email protected]
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
WIthout taking a public position one way or the other, this
need to be settled in the courts so that we all have some
idea of what rights we do or do not have; we should not be
required to guess about what the government can and can't do;
if we can't be trusted to know what the government can do,
then it can be argued that we have no rights. I am reminded
of the national security letters which are arguably
unconstitutional, but, any attempt to present that argument
to the judicial branch can result in your imprisonment.
my 2 cents
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Brian Webster
<[email protected]
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
wrote:
Ok I will bite to keep the thread moving.
Ponder this thought:
Executive branch has the ability to direct the NSA to do
domestic spying, may not be legal but they do it anyway.
This includes spying on members of congress.
We know politicians all have skeletons in their closets,
makes them ripe for extortion and such. Executive branch
uses the NSA to gather all these bits of juicy data that
incriminates ANY and ALL politicians.
Every time a critical vote in congress comes up, they
study where the swing votes may be, then all you do in
threaten to disclose any of these juicy details the NSA
has gathered. End result is the vote goes the way you
need it to.
As the executive branch you use this power and tactic
very carefully and sparingly so as not to raise
suspicions or to cause legislative revolt.
The public does not worry about this because they have
the protection of the Supreme Court and the balance of
powers.
Then you think, but what if the executive branch does
this to the judges too…………………
This level of power is something that once discovered
would never be given up, it’s just too handy and
powerful, no matter which party the executive may be from.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
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*On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 9:03 PM
*To:* [email protected]
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple
Yeah, I was being a troll when I started the thread. I
knew it would get some traction. Tushar was right, I was
bored.
*From:*Jaime Solorza
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*Sent:*Friday, February 19, 2016 7:01 PM
*To:*Animal Farm
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*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple
Hire a high school get to open phone. Geezh
On Feb 19, 2016 3:45 PM, <[email protected]
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
Treason?
