Pre-certified does not mean permitted on a network.

If you buy the sierra gateway solutions which is an all-in-one box, this is
considered a product, and the hoops have been jumped through by sierra
wireless.

On the other hand the 'modules' generally are pre-certified, but are not
considered a finished product which means you have to go through a 'light'
version of PTCRB testing.    See the article at
http://www.ecnmag.com/article/2012/07/cellular-carrier-certification-requirements
, this sums it up pretty well.   The thing that has changed for me is the
cost of the AT&T certification even with a pre-certified "almost automatic"
approval, was really expensive until recently.


On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> wrote:

> If you were to take a module from Sierra Wireless, aren't those pretty
> much all pre-certified?
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I still want everyone else's answer to this... but I'll add my $0.02:  (I
>> guess what I'm saying is I don't want to hijack this thread....since I'm
>> interested in everyone's answers.)
>>
>> I've been looking at adding a product to the PacketFlux line which uses a
>> cellular modem to manage it.  The hold up until recently has been the
>> arrogance of the cellular companies, especially in the US.   Getting a
>> cellular modem module and integrating it isn't a big issue for us (I've
>> been playing with this for a while).   Jumping through the hoops the
>> cellular companies require for this IS a big deal, and historically has
>> cost a lot of money.   It is amazing how you can take a module which the
>> cellular companies have pre-approved on their network, but it still costs
>> $20K to certify a product which uses the module as it was intended to be
>> permitted to talk on their network.  Add a SKU?  Another 10K, even if it's
>> virtually identical hardware.
>>
>> Recently AT&T has softened their policies on this to permit pre-certified
>> modules on the network (supposedly) without jumping through the expensive
>> hoops.   So, this may be happening sooner than I would have expected.   I
>> sort of am envisioning some sort of hybrid connection to the sitemonitor
>> line, plus ability to control other devices via snmp or telnet.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For example with HSPA+/LTE modems, to have proper OOB into the routers
>>> at a crucial POP.
>>>
>>> $6/mo per active SIM card is pretty cheap for M2M data SIMs, though the
>>> $/MB rate is not the best. But for the application I have in mind it would
>>> be console SSH traffic, which is super low bandwidth.
>>>
>>> https://ting.com/rates
>>>
>>> For LTE they're an MVNO on AT&T and T-Mobile.
>>>
>>> Looking at the FAQ they say that the data usage can be limited and
>>> monitored on a per-device basis, which could be useful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>


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