Forrest can correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like certification is necessary if you take a 'raw' module from Sierra Wireless or a competitor and integrate it into your product and are talking to it by AT commands.
If you buy a wholly integrated radio product such as an HSPA+/LTE modem that has a 100/1000 Mbps Ethernet interface, or a USB interface, the device itself is already certified. At which point you just need to integrate it into your product using the ethernet port or USB. Or for example the HSPA+/LTE HWIC which you can put in a Cisco 2900 or 3900 series router. It is already certified. You just have to attach a pair of antennas and some 50 ohm coax to it. http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/interfaces-modules/4g-lte-wireless-wan-enhanced-high-speed-wan-interface-card/datasheet_c78-710314.html On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: > What about a USB LTE adapter, and give your unit a USB port? > > I'm saying this from the comfort of my armchair, so maybe that's too hard > / too stupid. > > > > On 3/8/2016 3:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: > > Pre-certified does not mean permitted on a network. > > If you buy the sierra gateway solutions which is an all-in-one box, this > is considered a product, and the hoops have been jumped through by sierra > wireless. > > On the other hand the 'modules' generally are pre-certified, but are not > considered a finished product which means you have to go through a 'light' > version of PTCRB testing. See the article at > http://www.ecnmag.com/article/2012/07/cellular-carrier-certification-requirements > , this sums it up pretty well. The thing that has changed for me is the > cost of the AT&T certification even with a pre-certified "almost automatic" > approval, was really expensive until recently. > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> If you were to take a module from Sierra Wireless, aren't those pretty >> much all pre-certified? >> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I still want everyone else's answer to this... but I'll add my $0.02: >>> (I guess what I'm saying is I don't want to hijack this thread....since >>> I'm interested in everyone's answers.) >>> >>> I've been looking at adding a product to the PacketFlux line which uses >>> a cellular modem to manage it. The hold up until recently has been the >>> arrogance of the cellular companies, especially in the US. Getting a >>> cellular modem module and integrating it isn't a big issue for us (I've >>> been playing with this for a while). Jumping through the hoops the >>> cellular companies require for this IS a big deal, and historically has >>> cost a lot of money. It is amazing how you can take a module which the >>> cellular companies have pre-approved on their network, but it still costs >>> $20K to certify a product which uses the module as it was intended to be >>> permitted to talk on their network. Add a SKU? Another 10K, even if it's >>> virtually identical hardware. >>> >>> Recently AT&T has softened their policies on this to permit >>> pre-certified modules on the network (supposedly) without jumping through >>> the expensive hoops. So, this may be happening sooner than I would have >>> expected. I sort of am envisioning some sort of hybrid connection to the >>> sitemonitor line, plus ability to control other devices via snmp or telnet. >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> For example with HSPA+/LTE modems, to have proper OOB into the routers >>>> at a crucial POP. >>>> >>>> $6/mo per active SIM card is pretty cheap for M2M data SIMs, though the >>>> $/MB rate is not the best. But for the application I have in mind it would >>>> be console SSH traffic, which is super low bandwidth. >>>> >>>> https://ting.com/rates >>>> >>>> For LTE they're an MVNO on AT&T and T-Mobile. >>>> >>>> Looking at the FAQ they say that the data usage can be limited and >>>> monitored on a per-device basis, which could be useful. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.* >>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 >>> <[email protected]>[email protected] | http://www.packetflux.com >>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> >>> <http://facebook.com/packetflux> <http://twitter.com/@packetflux> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.* > Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 > <[email protected]>[email protected] | <http://www.packetflux.com/> > http://www.packetflux.com > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> <http://facebook.com/packetflux> > <http://twitter.com/@packetflux> > > >
