I would recommend a quality aged scotch. On Mar 10, 2016 11:23 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]> wrote:
> our 12 dollar guy is moving on, his primary responsibility is > infrastructure/tower work and backup installer. > We have an option of going with a subcontractor thats got value > > outside of a contract he will give use a 12 man hour day for around 850 > per day, inside a contract we can bring that cost down dramatically as long > as it is a use it lose it time based contract of around 30 12 man hour days > per year. > > Realistically, I get maybe 12-20 hours labor time out of our 12 dollar guy > per week, and the subcontractor can do the 20 hours in the 12. I even > subcontract to him myself on the side, and I like the guys he crews. If I > give them a clear scope of work, i dont question it will be completed the > way I want. > > Im already prebuilding the majority of anything that goes out here in the > shop, the 12 dollar guy just hangs and pulls cable for the most part or > calls in while n site and I walk him through maintenance or whatever. > > Im just trying to decide whether or not to recommend hiring a replacement. > > There is alot of lost value with his exit, but its lost anyway regardless > of whether we rehire. I have to train the replacement on anything that was > of value like i did with this guy. > > > > I cant count on the installer to man up and pick up the slack, its not > even an avenue thats worth a time investment. > > > The way I look at it, since we do have a trustworthy subcontractor, I > would rather see the expense of an hourly guy applied to growing than to > paying another mope to sit idle most of the time. It puts a heavier load on > me because I would have to start climbing towers again, but we are on so > few towers its negligible and I will have to pick up all the unschedulable > work which will push my day to day back into the evenings, but that might > be a good thing since it will cut into my alcoholism time and preserve my > liver. > > > > In you guys experience, in this case what would you recommend? My thoughts > are as above while keeping our eyes open for a value add guy to put on the > team if we find one, like if jaime decided to move up here and take a > little paycut, might even be able to get the boss to go up to 12.25 for you > jaime > > > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > >> +1 >> >> *From:* Adam Moffett <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 09, 2016 7:20 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Yearly cost of a full time employee >> >> Yeah I was gonna say double was the rule of thumb I was given. >> >> >> On 3/9/2016 9:15 PM, Paul McCall wrote: >> >> Multiply by 1.8 to 2.0 depending if there are benefits. >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *That One Guy /sarcasm >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:08 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Yearly cost of a full time employee >> >> >> >> If you have a 12 dollar an hour guy, what's the overall cost of that >> employee in real dollars on average annually? I assume it varies by state, >> and incidental benefits. But straight wage and average secondary costs with >> no benefits. Is there an employer calculator out there for this sort of >> thing? >> >> >> > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >
