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----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck McCown To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 6:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? And how many of us actually know how to play the banjo? Glen Waldrop wrote: > For contrast, I’m in rural Alabama as well. It is a 50/50 split here. > We get along fine. > > It is funny how I keep hearing about how racist we are in the south from a > bunch of people that have less than 10% non-whites living in their home > towns. > *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <mailto:[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:50 PM > *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? > Jaime.....I'm in rural Alabama. You know this. My city has probably 5 > blacks that live here. (and don't get me wrong, I work with a black man > on a regular basis and he's one of the hardest workers i have - i have > absolutely no issues with him). That being said, racism here was > totally generational when I was growing up. If you were old, you had some > racism still in your blood. No one my age or younger cared - it never > came up - and we just looked at old people funny and understood. > For some reason, now, it is not really like that anymore. > What changed? > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:[email protected]> > *To:* Animal Farm <mailto:[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 11:27 AM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? > > Hold up partner...first let's agree that we can disagree and still > have a beer together. Our founding fathers were men just like > you and me...sinners and not perfect.... while the intent of > Constitution said one thing...the reality was way different for > the Native Americans and African Americans. Entire nations wiped > out or moved to reservations....visit some in your beautiful state > of Arizona...I am sure they will be happy to hear your speech..or > go to Cabrini Green in Chicago... oh wait...it's gone...go to > parts of the south and east and talk to them about the > constitution. Learn the language... yes that ln makes > sense...on same token...look at most folks in Europe and Asia..and > more now in Middle East...they speak several languages....respect > our heritage? Don't think so Bubba...how quickly you forget > signs in restaurants and hotels > ..No Dogs, Negroes or Mexicans Allowed. Jim Crow era, KKK era, > voting and gerrymandered ploys to keep Republicans in office even > when population didn't reflect it, second rate education and > facilities for minorities..sending minorities in greater numbers > compared to whites to 'NAM...why do you think the hippies came up > in 60s? If you say drugs you are wrong...why protest of > convention in Chicago? And it was the Democratic Convention not > Republican. So I don't know what great heritage you are talking > about. I think it's great that folks keep in touch with their > culture....America is Not the Borg.... we can't all be blue eyed > blonde folks. That would be too Twilight Zone.... stop listening > to talk shows and Fox TV...try something novel...reading a history > book..but not one printed in Texas....ajuuaaa > > On Mar 12, 2016 9:56 AM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > You know what Ken, let’s do this. > > You need me to sound racist because your liberal mindset is > that everyone is a victim. I probably have a much wider > diversity of friends, business partners, and colleagues than > you do and never has anyone ever called me racist. Because I > abhor racial division and call it out for what it is, an > excuse for failure and control by race hustlers, I’m a > racist. That’s the pea-brained mentality of the > intellectually dishonest. You simply can’t understand that > there are those of us who don’t care about race, we simply > don’t have time for it in our lives and we don’t see it. However, > we can define the problems created by race, race > hustlers, and liberals who don’t want to face facts, just > blame everyone else for their problems and failures. > > What I care about is that there is a class of people that are > not assimilating into society because nobody wants to face the > facts. You would rather stick your head in the sand and call > out those of us who see the truth racists. Here is a fact, > not having a solid family support system, not following the > law, and not working hard is a recipe for failure, regardless > of the race. If you don’t want to face that fact, so be it. Stick > your head in the sand, blame me and call me names, and > stand by while our country falls apart because you don’t have > the intellectual honesty to face that fact that the greatest > country in the world is falling apart from within and from the > outside. Hell yes, I want our borders sealed and immigrants > required to learn our language and honor our heritage. Hell > yes I want every child to get a good education that honors > this country, the founders that gave it to us, and the men and > women who died to protect it. And until we recognize that > keeping an entire culture in poverty and ignorance by not > expecting them to excel is a bad thing, then we as a country > are doomed to further internal violence, strife, and > separation. I don’t care about the color, I care about the > fact that color is used as an excuse. > > The sad part is it’s not just any specific culture, it’s the > entire generation. There isn’t a manufacturer here that > doesn’t have engineering outside this country because they > can’t find enough engineering talent within our own borders > because our culture and education failed an entire > generation. And as for Obama, his policies have escalated > this problem, including unemployment, a poor economy, lower > standards of living, hatred of police and authority, and > racial division and escalation. So if you are big supporter > of him, congratulations, you picked a real winner there. You > want the truth, that’s it. So bring it on Ken. I’ll back my > conclusions with the facts from the Census bureau, the FBI, > the U.S Department of the Interior, the U.S. Bureau of Labor, > and the Bureau of Economic Analysis but those facts won’t > matter will they? > > Rory > > *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:25 AM > *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? > > Yes, I think your statements sound racist, and finally I call > your out for it. Why is that over the line? You have made > some pretty inflammatory statements, but it seems you can’t > take any criticism? > > We have a WISPA conference coming up. One thing I always > notice is we are not a very diverse crowd. Almost all white > men. That leads to the belief that prejudice is OK because > everyone here thinks that way too. > > *From:*Rory Conaway <mailto:[email protected]> > > *Sent:*Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:14 AM > > *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? > > That’s out of line Ken, at any level. What matters to me is > that the violence fostered by ignorant people in our society > who don’t contribute, but foster racial hatred and disdain for > the Constitution, the Laws of this country, and want special > treatment. I don’t give a crap what color they are but they > keep bringing it up. Black Lives Matter, Black Caucuses, etc… > The rest of us just want everyone to be Americans but it’s > liberals that won’t let race go because they need it to stay > in power. > > You want to attack me for my beliefs Ken, that’s fine. You > want to call me a racist, what I really want to tell you will > get me banned. I’m done with this and Ken, please don’t ever > speak to me again. You went too far. > > Rory > > *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:17 AM > *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? > > Black people really seem to set you off. > > *From:*Rory Conaway <mailto:[email protected]> > > *Sent:*Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:51 AM > > *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? > > Faisal, I’m ready to continue our other discussion. BTW, Black > Lives Matter showed up to the Chicago rally and now there is > looting and gun fire. I really doubt the Trump supporters are > doing that. > > Rory > > *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Faisal > Imtiaz > *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:32 AM > *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? > > I hope you realize that everyone participating in this > discussion is an Adult, and a Patriot. Everyone is very much > concerned about the future of our great nation. The discussion > is over the events as they are unfolding. > > It is very interesting to me, as an independent, that folks on > the right are so upset, and so polarized in their view that > they are willing to accept bad behavior from anyone of their > affiliated party, since that person can do nothing wrong and > the other side cannot do nothing right... > > I fully understand that everyone is passionate, but exchange > of views in a polite healthy manner is the proper decorum, > watching the GOP primaries turn into a circus act is > embarrassing, because the world is watching, and to see folks > trying to explain and justify is even more troubling. > > Bad behavior is bad behavior, it should be called out, and it > should not bt acceptable at any level from anyone. While the > media is fully responsible for fueling the fire and covering > only the inciting stuff.... watch closely the clips of trouble > at the Trump rallies, there appears to be an steadily > increasing amount of 'supporter participation' in this bad > behavior.... (when someone is being lead out, by security > there are folks hitting and throwing punches at the person > being lead out....).. and Mr Trump constantly refuses to > condemn such behavior, which indicates approval. > > While you can explain it and justify it which ever way you > want, some of us who have had a broader view of the world, > have seen this type of behavior and events , in the other > parts of the world.. and the end results were not very good > for anyone.... As such their is rising concern. > > The GOP is playing with Fire, one they think they can > control.... historically speaking when that particular type of > genie is let out of the bottle, no one has been able to > control it ..... > > :) > > Regards > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232> > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or > Email: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *"Rory Conaway" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > *Sent: *Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:05:42 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? > > Jaime, travel to the WWII museum and learn about the > sacrifices we made as a country to stop men like Hitler. You > have so mischaracterized what Trump is saying but I’d > rather take this discussion elsewhere to someplace like > Facebook. > > Rory > > *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of > *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 6:59 AM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? > > Fault? Its human nature....you push me and I push > back...most fights start that way...literally and > figuratively... Trump doesn't deny he has asked him > audience to beat the crap of those "bad dudes"...let's go > back to old days....what civil rights riots? Wallace? > Lynching? He is playing to the older white man who fears > foreigners are taking over the US. Xenophobia was one of > Hitler and others methods used to create a fervor and led > to murder of millions. i have a different perspective on > things from my ancestors and upbringing plus traveling. Travel > outside USA and your eyes open a bit more. I > normally stay quiet on politics but not this time.....too > much at stake...Trump will not win. >
