Telrad has 900 solution?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think you are in a perfect position to get Cambium and Telrad to give
> you some equipment to do a real live shootout in the 900 band.  Everyone
> wants to know  the outcome of this contest.
>
> *From:* David Young <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 16, 2016 1:54 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] LTE I need a valium
>
>
> We are a tiny municipally owned WISP and still very heavy to old Canopy
> 900. Our territory is far more than 90% wooded and very hilly. We have
> been  gearing up for an LTE trial, but paused to see what we can do with
> spacial diversity on our legacy 320 WiMAX, and with a 450i 900 sector
> deployment.
>
> Things I think we have learned are that at our small scale we may not need
> carrier class gear; Telrad LTE is now ready and it recently was not; and
> you need to right-size your system base stations depending upon how poor
> and how many poor connections you allow on your network because the weak
> connections put very high demands on a system.
>
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> David Young
>
> Administrative Coordinator
>
> Town of Warwick
>
> 978-729-3224 (mobile)
>
> 978-544-6315 (Selectboard office)
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> 413-676-9544 (Broadband service)
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> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *John Woodfield
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:02 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* {Spam?} Re: [AFMUG] I need a valium
>
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> If you expect LTE 3ghz to be the silver NLOS bullet it is not.
>
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> Putting speeds aside for the moment. Lets just talk signal. Same tower,
> same height Telrad 3ghz LTE with the Alpha dual-slant sector within 1db
> signal as 2.4 NBM2 on a UBNT 10db omni.
>
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>
> LTE does not change physics. The sales guys want you to believe that. It
> ain't so.
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> So, if you can attain a -75 on a 2.4 omni on a tower it won't work worth
> anything. That same signal on LTE will rock.
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> If you think it was have equal penetration to 900mhz and be a replacement
> for your old FSK system, you are sorely mistaken.
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> Near line of site? Yes.
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> We had a very specific application that Patrick said without question
> would work. When it didn't it was a bad antenna, then it was bad jumpers,
> then it was a bad compact, finally they flew someone in who argued with it
> for a day and at the end of the day? You can't argue with physics.
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> The whole "watch it work at -110" is garbage too. They skewed the numbers
> by 30db. Yes, it will work at -80, will it work well? YMMV.
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> In the end it was too expensive for the limited benefits we observed. They
> swear I'm the only one in the world it didn't work for in the same breath
> they swore it would work without any doubt.
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>
> John Woodfield, President
>
> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>
> 410-870-WiFi
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Ty Featherling" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 2:46pm
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I need a valium
>
> Ditto. Hell, onlist would be fine too. I'm sure many of us would like to
> hear your experience.
>
> -Ty
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> -Ty
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> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:49 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> I would like to know your complaints as well, please.  Thanks.  (offlist
> is fine)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
>
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 16, 2016 9:30 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] I need a valium
>
> If I may ask John, what were your complaints?
>
> On 3/16/2016 10:17 AM, John Woodfield wrote:
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> I wouldn't touch Telrad again if you paid me. That is a week of my life
> I'll never get back.
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> John Woodfield, President
>
> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>
> 410-870-WiFi
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" mailto:[email protected]%3E
> <[email protected]%3E>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 10:14am
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [AFMUG] I need a valium
>
> Hate being a decision maker sometimes.
>
> Love the cambium pmp450 roadmap.  I know several people are using pmp450
> in 3.65 and it works.  I also see now that a panel antenna is available
> based on the 450i in 3.65
>
> I may have fallen in love with lte. Haven't seen the telrad talk yet.
> Hear the new vendor does lte for roughly what we started our 900 network
> for back in 2004.
>
> Why would I choose lte over cambium ?
>
> Would I?  I think the cambium pmp450 (in 3.65) has a better roadmap....one
> gig aps by like 2017.....
>
> What if I choose the wrong product?
>
> Convince me.....
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
>
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>
> To: mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: [AFMUG] 450M
> Date: Wed, Mar 16, 2016 10:02 AM
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> 450i is backwards compatible with 450 today.
>
> Jeff Broadwick
>
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>
> 312-205-2519 Office
>
> 574-220-7826 Cell
>
> [email protected]
>
>
> On Mar 16, 2016, at 9:36 AM, Brian Sullivan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> Just like FSK?
>
> On 3/16/2016 7:40 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
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> Backwards compatibility.
>
> With existing 450
>
>

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