I think you are in a perfect position to get Cambium and Telrad to give you some equipment to do a real live shootout in the 900 band. Everyone wants to know the outcome of this contest.
From: David Young Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 1:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] LTE I need a valium We are a tiny municipally owned WISP and still very heavy to old Canopy 900. Our territory is far more than 90% wooded and very hilly. We have been gearing up for an LTE trial, but paused to see what we can do with spacial diversity on our legacy 320 WiMAX, and with a 450i 900 sector deployment. Things I think we have learned are that at our small scale we may not need carrier class gear; Telrad LTE is now ready and it recently was not; and you need to right-size your system base stations depending upon how poor and how many poor connections you allow on your network because the weak connections put very high demands on a system. David Young Administrative Coordinator Town of Warwick 978-729-3224 (mobile) 978-544-6315 (Selectboard office) 413-676-9544 (Broadband service) From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Woodfield Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: {Spam?} Re: [AFMUG] I need a valium If you expect LTE 3ghz to be the silver NLOS bullet it is not. Putting speeds aside for the moment. Lets just talk signal. Same tower, same height Telrad 3ghz LTE with the Alpha dual-slant sector within 1db signal as 2.4 NBM2 on a UBNT 10db omni. LTE does not change physics. The sales guys want you to believe that. It ain't so. So, if you can attain a -75 on a 2.4 omni on a tower it won't work worth anything. That same signal on LTE will rock. If you think it was have equal penetration to 900mhz and be a replacement for your old FSK system, you are sorely mistaken. Near line of site? Yes. We had a very specific application that Patrick said without question would work. When it didn't it was a bad antenna, then it was bad jumpers, then it was a bad compact, finally they flew someone in who argued with it for a day and at the end of the day? You can't argue with physics. The whole "watch it work at -110" is garbage too. They skewed the numbers by 30db. Yes, it will work at -80, will it work well? YMMV. In the end it was too expensive for the limited benefits we observed. They swear I'm the only one in the world it didn't work for in the same breath they swore it would work without any doubt. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -----Original Message----- From: "Ty Featherling" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 2:46pm To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I need a valium Ditto. Hell, onlist would be fine too. I'm sure many of us would like to hear your experience. -Ty -Ty On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:49 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]> wrote: I would like to know your complaints as well, please. Thanks. (offlist is fine) ----- Original Message ----- From: Adam Moffett To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I need a valium If I may ask John, what were your complaints? On 3/16/2016 10:17 AM, John Woodfield wrote: I wouldn't touch Telrad again if you paid me. That is a week of my life I'll never get back. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -----Original Message----- From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" mailto:[email protected]%3E Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 10:14am To: [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] I need a valium Hate being a decision maker sometimes. Love the cambium pmp450 roadmap. I know several people are using pmp450 in 3.65 and it works. I also see now that a panel antenna is available based on the 450i in 3.65 I may have fallen in love with lte. Haven't seen the telrad talk yet. Hear the new vendor does lte for roughly what we started our 900 network for back in 2004. Why would I choose lte over cambium ? Would I? I think the cambium pmp450 (in 3.65) has a better roadmap....one gig aps by like 2017..... What if I choose the wrong product? Convince me..... Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" mailto:[email protected] To: mailto:[email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] 450M Date: Wed, Mar 16, 2016 10:02 AM 450i is backwards compatible with 450 today. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell [email protected] On Mar 16, 2016, at 9:36 AM, Brian Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote: Just like FSK? On 3/16/2016 7:40 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Backwards compatibility. With existing 450
