Still perfect for high density short range micropops on new gen TX/RX
filtering radio designs ;)
On Mar 29, 2016 10:48 PM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> wrote:

> The wider beam horns are pretty low gain though...  the 90 degree is only
> 10dbi
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Oh they made new ones?! Awesome news. I was so bummed out talking to JT
>> about their freq range awhile back. I'm glad they redesigned them.
>> On Mar 29, 2016 10:42 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> They have a full range... 30/40/50/60/70/80/90...
>>>
>>> Just need to make sure you get the newer stuff that supports the full
>>> 5.x range...
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:43:47 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors
>>> on a        rohn 45/
>>>
>>> The widest is 65* or so, though.  That's a lot more expensive for
>>> someone debating two or four radios.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Mar 29, 2016 9:42 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ....... One can always look at something like the Rf Elements Simper
>>>> Horn antennas... Stacking them close to each other on the mast would not be
>>>> an issue with them....
>>>>
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>>>
>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]>
>>>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:16:04 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors
>>>> on a        rohn 45/
>>>>
>>>> We're only doing 5ghz ePMP at this point, but I wouldn't put APs that
>>>> close together unless I really had to anyway... I don't think we have any
>>>> ePMP sectors with less than about 3' feet of separation.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Brandon Yuchasz <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am coming from FSK mostly and a little 450 so forgive my ignorance.
>>>>> With FSK we still needed 3 wavelengths ( 3 feet )  of separation
>>>>> horizontally in 900mhz to keep from self-interfering even with GPS. 3
>>>>> wavelengths in 2.4 is a little more than 14 inches. Are you installing
>>>>> antennas close to each other than that and finding the GPS deals with it
>>>>> fine?  Ideally I would install two antennas to a pipe using some brackets
>>>>> to stand the antennas off the tower leg. Those antennas are going to be
>>>>> awful close to each other.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>>>>
>>>>> GogebicRange.net
>>>>>
>>>>> www.gogebicrange.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:59 AM
>>>>> *To:* af
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp
>>>>> sectors on a rohn 45/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Even if you only do two sectors, you still want to do GPS, as that
>>>>> will take care of the self interference problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you can cover all the customers with two 90 degrees, you could just
>>>>> put those up initially and you can always add the other two later on, if
>>>>> you have the need... or you could do two 120's and add a third later on
>>>>> (doing ABC) - but you still need to go with GPS radios.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Brandon Yuchasz <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume you ran this way with some separation on channels? For
>>>>> example used 1 and 11?  I am looking at this as a way to off load line of
>>>>> site and near line of site 900mhz fsk. We are deploying the 450i 900 as
>>>>> well but anyone I can move to 2.4 will save me throughput on the 450i not
>>>>> to mention be cheaper to convert.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>>>>
>>>>> GogebicRange.net
>>>>>
>>>>> www.gogebicrange.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:48 AM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp
>>>>> sectors on a rohn 45/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 90 degree antennas running ABAB with GPS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not even a question to be honest.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Brandon Yuchasz <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just looking for everyone’s experience mounting on Rohn 45 towers. We
>>>>> are looking to mount KP sectors on a tower site and want to make sure we
>>>>> have enough separation between the antennas.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am considering a few options at this site.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 90 degree antennas running ABAB with GPS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 90 degree antennas running AB with no GPS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 120 degree antennas running AB with no GPS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now 180 degrees of coverage just about all customers so 4
>>>>> antennas is not required if we go that route it would be more for future
>>>>> needs than anything else.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just wondering what configurations you all have used in the past for
>>>>> situations like this and what mounting hardware / stand offs? Anyone just
>>>>> mount two antennas right on the tower legs? If so did you have any
>>>>> self-interference that close together? We have not deployed the epmp line
>>>>> except single sectors at this point.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>>>>
>>>>> GogebicRange.net
>>>>>
>>>>> www.gogebicrange.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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