They make a 30 just for that... On Mar 29, 2016 11:15 PM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> True, but I would think the narrower beams would be more desirable in that > case... which are also higher gain. > > If I needed to put six or eight sectors on a tower, I would definitely be > looking at these. > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:50 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Still perfect for high density short range micropops on new gen TX/RX >> filtering radio designs ;) >> On Mar 29, 2016 10:48 PM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The wider beam horns are pretty low gain though... the 90 degree is >>> only 10dbi >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Oh they made new ones?! Awesome news. I was so bummed out talking to JT >>>> about their freq range awhile back. I'm glad they redesigned them. >>>> On Mar 29, 2016 10:42 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> They have a full range... 30/40/50/60/70/80/90... >>>>> >>>>> Just need to make sure you get the newer stuff that supports the full >>>>> 5.x range... >>>>> >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>>> >>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:43:47 PM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp >>>>> sectors on a rohn 45/ >>>>> >>>>> The widest is 65* or so, though. That's a lot more expensive for >>>>> someone debating two or four radios. >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> On Mar 29, 2016 9:42 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ....... One can always look at something like the Rf Elements Simper >>>>>> Horn antennas... Stacking them close to each other on the mast would not >>>>>> be >>>>>> an issue with them.... >>>>>> >>>>>> :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>>>> >>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> >>>>>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]> >>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:16:04 PM >>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp >>>>>> sectors on a rohn 45/ >>>>>> >>>>>> We're only doing 5ghz ePMP at this point, but I wouldn't put APs that >>>>>> close together unless I really had to anyway... I don't think we have any >>>>>> ePMP sectors with less than about 3' feet of separation. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Brandon Yuchasz < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I am coming from FSK mostly and a little 450 so forgive my >>>>>>> ignorance. With FSK we still needed 3 wavelengths ( 3 feet ) of >>>>>>> separation >>>>>>> horizontally in 900mhz to keep from self-interfering even with GPS. 3 >>>>>>> wavelengths in 2.4 is a little more than 14 inches. Are you installing >>>>>>> antennas close to each other than that and finding the GPS deals with it >>>>>>> fine? Ideally I would install two antennas to a pipe using some >>>>>>> brackets >>>>>>> to stand the antennas off the tower leg. Those antennas are going to be >>>>>>> awful close to each other. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Brandon Yuchasz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> GogebicRange.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> www.gogebicrange.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew >>>>>>> Howard >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:59 AM >>>>>>> *To:* af >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp >>>>>>> sectors on a rohn 45/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Even if you only do two sectors, you still want to do GPS, as that >>>>>>> will take care of the self interference problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you can cover all the customers with two 90 degrees, you could >>>>>>> just put those up initially and you can always add the other two later >>>>>>> on, >>>>>>> if you have the need... or you could do two 120's and add a third later >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> (doing ABC) - but you still need to go with GPS radios. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Brandon Yuchasz < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I assume you ran this way with some separation on channels? For >>>>>>> example used 1 and 11? I am looking at this as a way to off load line >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> site and near line of site 900mhz fsk. We are deploying the 450i 900 as >>>>>>> well but anyone I can move to 2.4 will save me throughput on the 450i >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> to mention be cheaper to convert. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Brandon Yuchasz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> GogebicRange.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> www.gogebicrange.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:48 AM >>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp >>>>>>> sectors on a rohn 45/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4 90 degree antennas running ABAB with GPS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not even a question to be honest. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Brandon Yuchasz < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just looking for everyone’s experience mounting on Rohn 45 towers. >>>>>>> We are looking to mount KP sectors on a tower site and want to make >>>>>>> sure we >>>>>>> have enough separation between the antennas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am considering a few options at this site. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4 90 degree antennas running ABAB with GPS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2 90 degree antennas running AB with no GPS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2 120 degree antennas running AB with no GPS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Right now 180 degrees of coverage just about all customers so 4 >>>>>>> antennas is not required if we go that route it would be more for future >>>>>>> needs than anything else. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just wondering what configurations you all have used in the past for >>>>>>> situations like this and what mounting hardware / stand offs? Anyone >>>>>>> just >>>>>>> mount two antennas right on the tower legs? If so did you have any >>>>>>> self-interference that close together? We have not deployed the epmp >>>>>>> line >>>>>>> except single sectors at this point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Brandon Yuchasz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> GogebicRange.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> www.gogebicrange.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
