True, but I would think the narrower beams would be more desirable in that case... which are also higher gain.
If I needed to put six or eight sectors on a tower, I would definitely be looking at these. On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:50 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: > Still perfect for high density short range micropops on new gen TX/RX > filtering radio designs ;) > On Mar 29, 2016 10:48 PM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The wider beam horns are pretty low gain though... the 90 degree is only >> 10dbi >> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Oh they made new ones?! Awesome news. I was so bummed out talking to JT >>> about their freq range awhile back. I'm glad they redesigned them. >>> On Mar 29, 2016 10:42 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> They have a full range... 30/40/50/60/70/80/90... >>>> >>>> Just need to make sure you get the newer stuff that supports the full >>>> 5.x range... >>>> >>>> :) >>>> >>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>> >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:43:47 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors >>>> on a rohn 45/ >>>> >>>> The widest is 65* or so, though. That's a lot more expensive for >>>> someone debating two or four radios. >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> On Mar 29, 2016 9:42 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> ....... One can always look at something like the Rf Elements Simper >>>>> Horn antennas... Stacking them close to each other on the mast would not >>>>> be >>>>> an issue with them.... >>>>> >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>>> >>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> >>>>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]> >>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:16:04 PM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp >>>>> sectors on a rohn 45/ >>>>> >>>>> We're only doing 5ghz ePMP at this point, but I wouldn't put APs that >>>>> close together unless I really had to anyway... I don't think we have any >>>>> ePMP sectors with less than about 3' feet of separation. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Brandon Yuchasz < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I am coming from FSK mostly and a little 450 so forgive my ignorance. >>>>>> With FSK we still needed 3 wavelengths ( 3 feet ) of separation >>>>>> horizontally in 900mhz to keep from self-interfering even with GPS. 3 >>>>>> wavelengths in 2.4 is a little more than 14 inches. Are you installing >>>>>> antennas close to each other than that and finding the GPS deals with it >>>>>> fine? Ideally I would install two antennas to a pipe using some brackets >>>>>> to stand the antennas off the tower leg. Those antennas are going to be >>>>>> awful close to each other. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Brandon Yuchasz >>>>>> >>>>>> GogebicRange.net >>>>>> >>>>>> www.gogebicrange.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:59 AM >>>>>> *To:* af >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp >>>>>> sectors on a rohn 45/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Even if you only do two sectors, you still want to do GPS, as that >>>>>> will take care of the self interference problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you can cover all the customers with two 90 degrees, you could >>>>>> just put those up initially and you can always add the other two later >>>>>> on, >>>>>> if you have the need... or you could do two 120's and add a third later >>>>>> on >>>>>> (doing ABC) - but you still need to go with GPS radios. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Brandon Yuchasz < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I assume you ran this way with some separation on channels? For >>>>>> example used 1 and 11? I am looking at this as a way to off load line of >>>>>> site and near line of site 900mhz fsk. We are deploying the 450i 900 as >>>>>> well but anyone I can move to 2.4 will save me throughput on the 450i not >>>>>> to mention be cheaper to convert. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Brandon Yuchasz >>>>>> >>>>>> GogebicRange.net >>>>>> >>>>>> www.gogebicrange.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:48 AM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp >>>>>> sectors on a rohn 45/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 4 90 degree antennas running ABAB with GPS >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Not even a question to be honest. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Brandon Yuchasz < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Just looking for everyone’s experience mounting on Rohn 45 towers. We >>>>>> are looking to mount KP sectors on a tower site and want to make sure we >>>>>> have enough separation between the antennas. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I am considering a few options at this site. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 4 90 degree antennas running ABAB with GPS >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2 90 degree antennas running AB with no GPS >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2 120 degree antennas running AB with no GPS >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Right now 180 degrees of coverage just about all customers so 4 >>>>>> antennas is not required if we go that route it would be more for future >>>>>> needs than anything else. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Just wondering what configurations you all have used in the past for >>>>>> situations like this and what mounting hardware / stand offs? Anyone just >>>>>> mount two antennas right on the tower legs? If so did you have any >>>>>> self-interference that close together? We have not deployed the epmp line >>>>>> except single sectors at this point. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Brandon Yuchasz >>>>>> >>>>>> GogebicRange.net >>>>>> >>>>>> www.gogebicrange.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>
