Runners talk about them a lot so I figure it's a long way to run.

Josh Luthman wrote:
WTF is 10 kilometers???


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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Jay Weekley <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    We mentally convert metrics to English units anyway.  If someone
    says something is 10 kilometers away.  I mentally say, "wow,
    that's over six miles".

    Eric Kuhnke wrote:

        Silly Americans just convert everything to use metric please...


        On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:22 PM, George Skorup
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

            Old AT&T telco racks are 12-24. All of the new 2-post
        telco racks
            we get are 12-24 threaded as well.

            On 3/30/2016 4:11 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

                Most relay racks / two post racks from US sources
            (Hammond,
                Middle Atlantic, Chatsworth) which don't use nuts seem
            to ship
                with 10-32 US threaded holes. All of the cage nuts
            that mount in
                square holes seem to be M6 as they all come from
            China/Taiwan.

                I am not sure the last time I saw something 12-24
            threaded.

                Then there are the weird 23" heavy gauge steel relay
            racks used
                by some old telecom stuff that come untapped, if you
            want to
                mount stuff in it you need to bring a tap kit and
            power drill.


                On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Ken Hohhof
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

                    I think even here in the US, square holes and M6
            cage nuts
                    and screws are pretty much standard.  At least in data
                    centers.  Telco might still use 12-24.
                    *From:* Eric Kuhnke <mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:45 PM
                    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw
                    I've seen lots of M6 in the stuff from China, and
            of course
                    12-24 and 10-32 from US sources...  But never M5.
                    On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Ken Hohhof
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
            wrote:

                        Rack screw can be 10-32, 12-24, M5, M6. And
            rack rail
                        can be threaded, round hole, square hole. Too
            many options.

                        -----Original Message----- From: Cassidy B. Larson
                        Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:24 PM

                        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw

                        I know on Cisco switches you could turn the
            ears around
                        and the holes would line up so you’d get more
            switch in
                        front of the rails.


                            On Mar 29, 2016, at 8:22 PM, Sterling Jacobson
                            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>>
                            wrote:

                            That's a good idea.

                            If there are not holes, is there a small
            screw type
                            that is short and self-tapping?

                            Not sure the best way to mount the ears if
            the holes
                            for the ears don't exist on the switch.

                            -----Original Message-----
                            From: Af [mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>
                            <mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
                            Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:10 PM
                            To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw

                            Add mounting ears farther back on the switch.

                            -----Original Message-----
                            From: Sterling Jacobson
                            Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:57 PM
                            To: '[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>'
                            Subject: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw

                            This is really specific; don't ask why I
            need it :)

                            But I need a standard rack threaded screw
            that looks
                            like a 6 to 7 inch long motherboard
            standoff screw.

                            So it would stand a 1U switch forward from
            the 19"
                            rack about 6-7 inches.

                            I tried standard rack standoff modules,
            but the space
                            is too limiting.









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