No. TFTP flash recreates the flash filesystem. HTTP upgrade does not.
On Apr 10, 2016 9:38 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> if it happens to be crumped, and i http it a firmware, it should still
> overwrite the funtime hatred shouldnt it?
>
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Nope. Just TFTP flash it to the newest stable firmware.
>> On Apr 10, 2016 9:02 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there somethin ng to run against this air router to check it?
>>> On Apr 10, 2016 7:53 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://m.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/29/antivirus_blood_splattered_as_biz_warned_audit_or_die/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/09/security-wares-like-kaspersky-av-can-make-you-more-vulnerable-to-attacks/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://books.google.com/books?id=wqV1CgAAQBAJ&pg=PA183&lpg=PA183&dq=antivirus+attack+surface&source=bl&ots=HF7hnyj7sN&sig=Ski6OAQaLdD4MeIDGJRfuNoaZiE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsgP7nroXMAhUjk4MKHb19DQ0Q6AEIKzAE#v=onepage&q=antivirus%20attack%20surface&f=false
>>>> On Apr 10, 2016 6:21 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Josh,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you expand that?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The following is the last communication, note this started as a
>>>>> slowness complaint.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi. I had a couple questions regarding the wireless router that you
>>>>> provide with my service. Since I don't have access to the device, could 
>>>>> you
>>>>> turn off broadcasting of the SSID please? The reason for this request due
>>>>> to a very damaging virus/malware that hit my home network extremely
>>>>> hard.gained access to my networks through the wireless connection and my
>>>>> phone, which then took out every thing else connected. The Wi-Fi that
>>>>> caused the issue ended up as "OPEN" and not longer secure. Since there is
>>>>> such massive distances between any of us our her I would only see that
>>>>> specific SSID on days when everthing allowed to to travel just a litter 
>>>>> bit
>>>>> further. And when I did see it over the last 1.5 years, but it was always
>>>>> "Secured". Anyway... the story is much longer but A. can you hide the SSID
>>>>> and possibly change it to something else? This way I know it has a little
>>>>> extra protection. But please let me know the the SSID. Do you by chance
>>>>> know of an SSID near me of: ISPSTUFF360? It's Mac address is
>>>>> 00:60:ld:f1:91:be. It came back as a Lucent Technologies device. Also.. I
>>>>> was not simply taken out of service by 1 "Open" device...I was taken out 
>>>>> by
>>>>> 2 ! The second one that is also broadcasting as "Open is similar in name. 
>>>>> .
>>>>> It\s SSID is ISPSTUFF1000. I have it's mac address somewhere in the middle
>>>>> of all this mess, but its the same I believe. It also resolved by MAC
>>>>> address to a Lucent Technologies Devic. From what discovered from once I
>>>>> had a change to finish up replacing the hard drive in my laptop, ending up
>>>>> with corruption in the bios as well, replacing a drive in my Workstations
>>>>> as it would not ever respond to restoration software. And so much figging
>>>>> time to install everything. I had to be safe and reset my phone, my tablet
>>>>> pc and and my FLAC file of over 119gb of my entire music collection. Not
>>>>> to. I still dont feel comfortable given how destructive it was. I
>>>>> immediately had to spend our upon hour callng banks, and Website, and
>>>>> anyting that I accessed online to change my logins and passwords.. It even
>>>>> appears to have left it's mark on the Direct TV DVR as well. So I have
>>>>> already spent more $ than I had to spare but I most definately dont trust
>>>>> any of the devices anylonger. Especially since the 2 devices are still
>>>>> broadcasting as I send this. Kevin
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> FYI antimalware/antivirus and adblock are the newest attack vectors.
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pretty easy way to get persistent malware on machines now.
>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2016 3:57 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Im a worst case scenario artist. My concern is the customer will
>>>>>>> talk to our customer service, theyll tell him we will replace his 
>>>>>>> router.
>>>>>>> He will bring it in, get a replacement. Its been "infected" and will hit
>>>>>>> our Achilles heel. Customer service will drop it in the returns bin. It
>>>>>>> will get taken abk and connected to the machine thats used to dump the
>>>>>>> file, it will "infect" that machine, that machine will infect the 
>>>>>>> Customer
>>>>>>> service network. A tech will pick up the router and install it at 
>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>> POP. infecting that POP. he will also bring his laptop back and connect 
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> to my network. My machine has no real antimalware and he will infect it
>>>>>>> across that network. My machine has all the keys to the castle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the reality is they guy probably had slow wifi in his detached
>>>>>>> garage 1500 feet from his house, and his buddy mike said he must be
>>>>>>> infected with some really nasty virus because his portable version of 
>>>>>>> AVG
>>>>>>> from 2010 cant find it so it must be direct from anonymous.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cross platform malware is a Thing now, and has been for several
>>>>>>>> years. It's fortunately not very prevalent yet.
>>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2016 3:36 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't believe it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have a friend that comes to some outrageous conclusions with
>>>>>>>>> scant information, and practically zero technical knowledge. Yet when 
>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>> explains something, he sounds perfectly reasonable  with impeccable 
>>>>>>>>> logic.
>>>>>>>>> It just never is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/10/2016 1:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So we have this customer who experienced a ferocious malware,
>>>>>>>>> still waiting on more details from the customer, its very interesting
>>>>>>>>> because it crossed multiple platforms. multiple cell phones, a 
>>>>>>>>> satellite
>>>>>>>>> DVR, a PC etc. Im not sure how he verified infection, but he did have 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> factory his phones, his PC he said required a hard drive replacement 
>>>>>>>>> (not
>>>>>>>>> sure what or who decided this) not sure how the satellite DVR was
>>>>>>>>> mitigated. He thinks it came from a Rise Broadband (formerly Prairie 
>>>>>>>>> Inet
>>>>>>>>> ESSID  (I doubt this, the ESSIDs prairie inet ran were open, with 
>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> security for the access)
>>>>>>>>> With it being as cross platform as it was im wondering how i would
>>>>>>>>> check the air router we provide to see if it got hit as well. All we 
>>>>>>>>> do is
>>>>>>>>> a dump file on the current firmware that sets a password, ensures 443 
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> open, sets a DMZ to an IP out of the DHCP scope, and we manually set 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> ESSID with WPA2, the key being the MAC on the label ( it think this 
>>>>>>>>> is the
>>>>>>>>> WLAN) (we disable snmp, telnet, but leave ssh open), we also turn off 
>>>>>>>>> CDP
>>>>>>>>> and the ubnt discovery
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Im hoping he has some good info on what this actually was, and its
>>>>>>>>> not just a case of his buddy jim telling him all this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anybody know of something in the wild capable of hitting all these
>>>>>>>>> devices across a network (wired/wireless)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Im asking about the airrrouter in particular, considering if it
>>>>>>>>> were impacted, that could be a mess at the POP since most customer 
>>>>>>>>> NAT are
>>>>>>>>> in the same subnet, with duplicate configs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
>>>>>>>>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the 
>>>>>>>>> team.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>
>
>
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