I feel bad for the poor Rise Broadband guy he talks to, hes convinced their
ESSIDs have infected him

On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> stupid malware, i would have been a real good bad guy, i need to learn to
> code so i can hacksnphreaks stuff
>
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Correct
>> On Apr 10, 2016 9:43 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> no real way to do that remotely is there with no one holding the reset
>>> and a layer 2 connection?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No. TFTP flash recreates the flash filesystem. HTTP upgrade does not.
>>>> On Apr 10, 2016 9:38 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> if it happens to be crumped, and i http it a firmware, it should still
>>>>> overwrite the funtime hatred shouldnt it?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope. Just TFTP flash it to the newest stable firmware.
>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2016 9:02 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there somethin ng to run against this air router to check it?
>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2016 7:53 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://m.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/29/antivirus_blood_splattered_as_biz_warned_audit_or_die/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/09/security-wares-like-kaspersky-av-can-make-you-more-vulnerable-to-attacks/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://books.google.com/books?id=wqV1CgAAQBAJ&pg=PA183&lpg=PA183&dq=antivirus+attack+surface&source=bl&ots=HF7hnyj7sN&sig=Ski6OAQaLdD4MeIDGJRfuNoaZiE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsgP7nroXMAhUjk4MKHb19DQ0Q6AEIKzAE#v=onepage&q=antivirus%20attack%20surface&f=false
>>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2016 6:21 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you expand that?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The following is the last communication, note this started as a
>>>>>>>>> slowness complaint.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi. I had a couple questions regarding the wireless router that
>>>>>>>>> you provide with my service. Since I don't have access to the device, 
>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> you turn off broadcasting of the SSID please? The reason for this 
>>>>>>>>> request
>>>>>>>>> due to a very damaging virus/malware that hit my home network 
>>>>>>>>> extremely
>>>>>>>>> hard.gained access to my networks through the wireless connection and 
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> phone, which then took out every thing else connected. The Wi-Fi that
>>>>>>>>> caused the issue ended up as "OPEN" and not longer secure. Since 
>>>>>>>>> there is
>>>>>>>>> such massive distances between any of us our her I would only see that
>>>>>>>>> specific SSID on days when everthing allowed to to travel just a 
>>>>>>>>> litter bit
>>>>>>>>> further. And when I did see it over the last 1.5 years, but it was 
>>>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>>> "Secured". Anyway... the story is much longer but A. can you hide the 
>>>>>>>>> SSID
>>>>>>>>> and possibly change it to something else? This way I know it has a 
>>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>>> extra protection. But please let me know the the SSID. Do you by 
>>>>>>>>> chance
>>>>>>>>> know of an SSID near me of: ISPSTUFF360? It's Mac address is
>>>>>>>>> 00:60:ld:f1:91:be. It came back as a Lucent Technologies device. 
>>>>>>>>> Also.. I
>>>>>>>>> was not simply taken out of service by 1 "Open" device...I was taken 
>>>>>>>>> out by
>>>>>>>>> 2 ! The second one that is also broadcasting as "Open is similar in 
>>>>>>>>> name. .
>>>>>>>>> It\s SSID is ISPSTUFF1000. I have it's mac address somewhere in the 
>>>>>>>>> middle
>>>>>>>>> of all this mess, but its the same I believe. It also resolved by MAC
>>>>>>>>> address to a Lucent Technologies Devic. From what discovered from 
>>>>>>>>> once I
>>>>>>>>> had a change to finish up replacing the hard drive in my laptop, 
>>>>>>>>> ending up
>>>>>>>>> with corruption in the bios as well, replacing a drive in my 
>>>>>>>>> Workstations
>>>>>>>>> as it would not ever respond to restoration software. And so much 
>>>>>>>>> figging
>>>>>>>>> time to install everything. I had to be safe and reset my phone, my 
>>>>>>>>> tablet
>>>>>>>>> pc and and my FLAC file of over 119gb of my entire music collection. 
>>>>>>>>> Not
>>>>>>>>> to. I still dont feel comfortable given how destructive it was. I
>>>>>>>>> immediately had to spend our upon hour callng banks, and Website, and
>>>>>>>>> anyting that I accessed online to change my logins and passwords.. It 
>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>> appears to have left it's mark on the Direct TV DVR as well. So I have
>>>>>>>>> already spent more $ than I had to spare but I most definately dont 
>>>>>>>>> trust
>>>>>>>>> any of the devices anylonger. Especially since the 2 devices are still
>>>>>>>>> broadcasting as I send this. Kevin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>>>>>>>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> FYI antimalware/antivirus and adblock are the newest attack
>>>>>>>>>> vectors. :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pretty easy way to get persistent malware on machines now.
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2016 3:57 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>>>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Im a worst case scenario artist. My concern is the customer will
>>>>>>>>>>> talk to our customer service, theyll tell him we will replace his 
>>>>>>>>>>> router.
>>>>>>>>>>> He will bring it in, get a replacement. Its been "infected" and 
>>>>>>>>>>> will hit
>>>>>>>>>>> our Achilles heel. Customer service will drop it in the returns 
>>>>>>>>>>> bin. It
>>>>>>>>>>> will get taken abk and connected to the machine thats used to dump 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> file, it will "infect" that machine, that machine will infect the 
>>>>>>>>>>> Customer
>>>>>>>>>>> service network. A tech will pick up the router and install it at 
>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>> POP. infecting that POP. he will also bring his laptop back and 
>>>>>>>>>>> connect it
>>>>>>>>>>> to my network. My machine has no real antimalware and he will 
>>>>>>>>>>> infect it
>>>>>>>>>>> across that network. My machine has all the keys to the castle.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the reality is they guy probably had slow wifi in his detached
>>>>>>>>>>> garage 1500 feet from his house, and his buddy mike said he must be
>>>>>>>>>>> infected with some really nasty virus because his portable version 
>>>>>>>>>>> of AVG
>>>>>>>>>>> from 2010 cant find it so it must be direct from anonymous.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>>>>>>>>>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cross platform malware is a Thing now, and has been for several
>>>>>>>>>>>> years. It's fortunately not very prevalent yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2016 3:36 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have a friend that comes to some outrageous conclusions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with scant information, and practically zero technical knowledge. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> he explains something, he sounds perfectly reasonable  with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> impeccable
>>>>>>>>>>>>> logic. It just never is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/10/2016 1:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So we have this customer who experienced a ferocious malware,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> still waiting on more details from the customer, its very 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it crossed multiple platforms. multiple cell phones, a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> satellite
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DVR, a PC etc. Im not sure how he verified infection, but he did 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> factory his phones, his PC he said required a hard drive 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> replacement (not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure what or who decided this) not sure how the satellite DVR was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mitigated. He thinks it came from a Rise Broadband (formerly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prairie Inet
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ESSID  (I doubt this, the ESSIDs prairie inet ran were open, with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> security for the access)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With it being as cross platform as it was im wondering how i
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would check the air router we provide to see if it got hit as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well. All we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do is a dump file on the current firmware that sets a password, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensures 443
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is open, sets a DMZ to an IP out of the DHCP scope, and we 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> manually set the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ESSID with WPA2, the key being the MAC on the label ( it think 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WLAN) (we disable snmp, telnet, but leave ssh open), we also turn 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> off CDP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the ubnt discovery
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im hoping he has some good info on what this actually was, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> its not just a case of his buddy jim telling him all this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody know of something in the wild capable of hitting all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these devices across a network (wired/wireless)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im asking about the airrrouter in particular, considering if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it were impacted, that could be a mess at the POP since most 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> customer NAT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are in the same subnet, with duplicate configs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the team.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
>>>>>>>>>>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of 
>>>>>>>>>>> the team.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
>>>>>>>>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the 
>>>>>>>>> team.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>
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