So this guys still at it, hes tried contacing rise multiple times, they wont help, blah blah blah, wants us to help.
I did my due diligence, I called rise, told them we have a numbskul. I asked them if they were serving malicious content over unsecured wifi, he assured me they werent, something about bad juju and all, I told him sorry for calling, and im not a rat fink snitch but I need this custome roff my back so ill just point him to the FCC complaint form so they can tell him to get bent. I sent him the consumer complaint link with the FCC and told him its not our place to get involved. I assume this will end up resulting in him complaining every two days on that form about us too Im no snitch btw On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: > Flo is your customer? > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > On 4/11/2016 2:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I think some of my customers were in a recent Progressive commercial: > http://lifelanes.progressive.com/park-ranger-mark/ > > > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, April 11, 2016 4:21 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] interesting malware, and checking an air router > > I feel bad for the poor Rise Broadband guy he talks to, hes convinced > their ESSIDs have infected him > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < > <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: > >> stupid malware, i would have been a real good bad guy, i need to learn to >> code so i can hacksnphreaks stuff >> >> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Josh Reynolds < <[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Correct >>> On Apr 10, 2016 9:43 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> no real way to do that remotely is there with no one holding the reset >>>> and a layer 2 connection? >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Josh Reynolds < <[email protected]> >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> No. TFTP flash recreates the flash filesystem. HTTP upgrade does not. >>>>> On Apr 10, 2016 9:38 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> if it happens to be crumped, and i http it a firmware, it should >>>>>> still overwrite the funtime hatred shouldnt it? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Josh Reynolds < >>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope. Just TFTP flash it to the newest stable firmware. >>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2016 9:02 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is there somethin ng to run against this air router to check it? >>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2016 7:53 PM, "Josh Reynolds" < <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <http://m.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/29/antivirus_blood_splattered_as_biz_warned_audit_or_die/> >>>>>>>>> http://m.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/29/antivirus_blood_splattered_as_biz_warned_audit_or_die/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/09/security-wares-like-kaspersky-av-can-make-you-more-vulnerable-to-attacks/> >>>>>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/09/security-wares-like-kaspersky-av-can-make-you-more-vulnerable-to-attacks/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://books.google.com/books?id=wqV1CgAAQBAJ&pg=PA183&lpg=PA183&dq=antivirus+attack+surface&source=bl&ots=HF7hnyj7sN&sig=Ski6OAQaLdD4MeIDGJRfuNoaZiE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsgP7nroXMAhUjk4MKHb19DQ0Q6AEIKzAE#v=onepage&q=antivirus%20attack%20surface&f=false> >>>>>>>>> https://books.google.com/books?id=wqV1CgAAQBAJ&pg=PA183&lpg=PA183&dq=antivirus+attack+surface&source=bl&ots=HF7hnyj7sN&sig=Ski6OAQaLdD4MeIDGJRfuNoaZiE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsgP7nroXMAhUjk4MKHb19DQ0Q6AEIKzAE#v=onepage&q=antivirus%20attack%20surface&f=false >>>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2016 6:21 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Josh, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can you expand that? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The following is the last communication, note this started as a >>>>>>>>>> slowness complaint. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi. I had a couple questions regarding the wireless router that >>>>>>>>>> you provide with my service. Since I don't have access to the >>>>>>>>>> device, could >>>>>>>>>> you turn off broadcasting of the SSID please? The reason for this >>>>>>>>>> request >>>>>>>>>> due to a very damaging virus/malware that hit my home network >>>>>>>>>> extremely >>>>>>>>>> hard.gained access to my networks through the wireless connection >>>>>>>>>> and my >>>>>>>>>> phone, which then took out every thing else connected. The Wi-Fi that >>>>>>>>>> caused the issue ended up as "OPEN" and not longer secure. Since >>>>>>>>>> there is >>>>>>>>>> such massive distances between any of us our her I would only see >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> specific SSID on days when everthing allowed to to travel just a >>>>>>>>>> litter bit >>>>>>>>>> further. And when I did see it over the last 1.5 years, but it was >>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>> "Secured". Anyway... the story is much longer but A. can you hide >>>>>>>>>> the SSID >>>>>>>>>> and possibly change it to something else? This way I know it has a >>>>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>>>> extra protection. But please let me know the the SSID. Do you by >>>>>>>>>> chance >>>>>>>>>> know of an SSID near me of: ISPSTUFF360? It's Mac address is >>>>>>>>>> 00:60:ld:f1:91:be. It came back as a Lucent Technologies device. >>>>>>>>>> Also.. I >>>>>>>>>> was not simply taken out of service by 1 "Open" device...I was taken >>>>>>>>>> out by >>>>>>>>>> 2 ! The second one that is also broadcasting as "Open is similar in >>>>>>>>>> name. . >>>>>>>>>> It\s SSID is ISPSTUFF1000. I have it's mac address somewhere in the >>>>>>>>>> middle >>>>>>>>>> of all this mess, but its the same I believe. It also resolved by MAC >>>>>>>>>> address to a Lucent Technologies Devic. From what discovered from >>>>>>>>>> once I >>>>>>>>>> had a change to finish up replacing the hard drive in my laptop, >>>>>>>>>> ending up >>>>>>>>>> with corruption in the bios as well, replacing a drive in my >>>>>>>>>> Workstations >>>>>>>>>> as it would not ever respond to restoration software. And so much >>>>>>>>>> figging >>>>>>>>>> time to install everything. I had to be safe and reset my phone, my >>>>>>>>>> tablet >>>>>>>>>> pc and and my FLAC file of over 119gb of my entire music collection. >>>>>>>>>> Not >>>>>>>>>> to. I still dont feel comfortable given how destructive it was. I >>>>>>>>>> immediately had to spend our upon hour callng banks, and Website, and >>>>>>>>>> anyting that I accessed online to change my logins and passwords.. >>>>>>>>>> It even >>>>>>>>>> appears to have left it's mark on the Direct TV DVR as well. So I >>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>> already spent more $ than I had to spare but I most definately dont >>>>>>>>>> trust >>>>>>>>>> any of the devices anylonger. Especially since the 2 devices are >>>>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>>>> broadcasting as I send this. Kevin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Josh Reynolds < >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> FYI antimalware/antivirus and adblock are the newest attack >>>>>>>>>>> vectors. :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Pretty easy way to get persistent malware on machines now. >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2016 3:57 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Im a worst case scenario artist. My concern is the customer >>>>>>>>>>>> will talk to our customer service, theyll tell him we will replace >>>>>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>>>>> router. He will bring it in, get a replacement. Its been >>>>>>>>>>>> "infected" and >>>>>>>>>>>> will hit our Achilles heel. Customer service will drop it in the >>>>>>>>>>>> returns >>>>>>>>>>>> bin. It will get taken abk and connected to the machine thats used >>>>>>>>>>>> to dump >>>>>>>>>>>> the file, it will "infect" that machine, that machine will infect >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> Customer service network. A tech will pick up the router and >>>>>>>>>>>> install it at >>>>>>>>>>>> another POP. infecting that POP. he will also bring his laptop >>>>>>>>>>>> back and >>>>>>>>>>>> connect it to my network. My machine has no real antimalware and >>>>>>>>>>>> he will >>>>>>>>>>>> infect it across that network. My machine has all the keys to the >>>>>>>>>>>> castle. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the reality is they guy probably had slow wifi in his detached >>>>>>>>>>>> garage 1500 feet from his house, and his buddy mike said he must be >>>>>>>>>>>> infected with some really nasty virus because his portable version >>>>>>>>>>>> of AVG >>>>>>>>>>>> from 2010 cant find it so it must be direct from anonymous. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Josh Reynolds < >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cross platform malware is a Thing now, and has been for >>>>>>>>>>>>> several years. It's fortunately not very prevalent yet. >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2016 3:36 PM, "Bill Prince" < <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have a friend that comes to some outrageous conclusions >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with scant information, and practically zero technical >>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge. Yet when >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he explains something, he sounds perfectly reasonable with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> impeccable >>>>>>>>>>>>>> logic. It just never is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/10/2016 1:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So we have this customer who experienced a ferocious malware, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> still waiting on more details from the customer, its very >>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it crossed multiple platforms. multiple cell phones, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> satellite >>>>>>>>>>>>>> DVR, a PC etc. Im not sure how he verified infection, but he did >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> factory his phones, his PC he said required a hard drive >>>>>>>>>>>>>> replacement (not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure what or who decided this) not sure how the satellite DVR was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mitigated. He thinks it came from a Rise Broadband (formerly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prairie Inet >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ESSID (I doubt this, the ESSIDs prairie inet ran were open, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> security for the access) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> With it being as cross platform as it was im wondering how i >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would check the air router we provide to see if it got hit as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> well. All we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> do is a dump file on the current firmware that sets a password, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensures 443 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is open, sets a DMZ to an IP out of the DHCP scope, and we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> manually set the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ESSID with WPA2, the key being the MAC on the label ( it think >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WLAN) (we disable snmp, telnet, but leave ssh open), we also >>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn off CDP >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the ubnt discovery >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im hoping he has some good info on what this actually was, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and its not just a case of his buddy jim telling him all this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody know of something in the wild capable of hitting all >>>>>>>>>>>>>> these devices across a network (wired/wireless) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im asking about the airrrouter in particular, considering if >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it were impacted, that could be a mess at the POP since most >>>>>>>>>>>>>> customer NAT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are in the same subnet, with duplicate configs >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> part of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> team. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see >>>>>>>>>>>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of >>>>>>>>>>>> the team. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see >>>>>>>>>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the >>>>>>>>>> team. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> > > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > > > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
