upgrade to 6.35.2 unless you have a specific reason ... 

The old version may be the cause of other issues too. 

Regards 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] 

> From: "Jerry Head" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 2:11:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

> I just looked at mine, embarrassingly old at 6.1

> On 5/12/2016 12:53 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

>> It was not there in 6.19.
>> From: Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:50 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS
>> I want to say earlier than that but I don't have anything older either.
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:49 PM, George Skorup < [email protected] > wrote:

>>> I think that was added in 6.25 or so? The oldest I have on the network is 
>>> 6.27
>>> and it's there.

>>> On 5/12/2016 9:29 AM, Jerry Head wrote:

>>>> The Torch on my CCR does not look like that, no DSCP option at all.....

>>>> On 5/11/2016 11:54 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

>>>>> Make sure you are using the right settings in Torch....
>>>>> and you can always sort on the DSCP Marks.
>>>>> You should see something like in the attached picture...
>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]

>>>>>> From: "Andreas Wiatowski" mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:46:07 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

>>>>>> I’ve been trying to see DSCP marks in torch on our CRR’s… can’t seem to 
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> anything in the interface. I’m going to try a packet capture and view in
>>>>>> Wireshark.

>>>>>> Thanks for your input.

>>>>>> Cheers,

>>>>>> ______________________________

>>>>>> Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

>>>>>> Silo Wireless Inc.

>>>>>> Email [email protected]

>>>>>> 19 Sage Court

>>>>>> Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

>>>>>> Tel +1.519.449.5656 Extension-600 |Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free
>>>>>> +1.866.727.4138

>>>>>> From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:48 AM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

>>>>>> Andreas,

>>>>>> Yes, here is the logic....

>>>>>> PBX should mark packets correctly (RTP packets as well as SIP 
>>>>>> signaling... for
>>>>>> packets going towards to the CPE).

>>>>>> Phone CPE should mark packets correctly... (for packets going to the PBX)

>>>>>> Routers typically are not constrained on their pipes, so traffic flows 
>>>>>> well.

>>>>>> Unless you are using some sort of queues to restrict traffic flow.... 
>>>>>> then you
>>>>>> have to make sure that dscp/qos marked traffic flows with priority.

>>>>>> Most radio's will respect DSCP/QoS marks and allocate priority 
>>>>>> accordingly...
>>>>>> (check with your radio mfg / firmware version, config etc).

>>>>>> BTW you can easily see the DSCP/QoS marks if you use TORCH on the MT, it 
>>>>>> is real
>>>>>> time.... :)

>>>>>> Regards

>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]

>>>>>>> From: "Andreas Wiatowski" < [email protected] >
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:17:03 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS
>>>>>>> Faisal,

>>>>>>> So the packets should still contain DSCP tags regardless of layer2 or 
>>>>>>> layer3?

>>>>>>> Sounds like I will need to do some packet captures.

>>>>>>> Cheers,

>>>>>>> ______________________________

>>>>>>> Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

>>>>>>> Silo Wireless Inc.

>>>>>>> Email [email protected]

>>>>>>> 19 Sage Court

>>>>>>> Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

>>>>>>> Tel +1.519.449.5656 Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
>>>>>>> +1.866.727.4138

>>>>>>> From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:35 AM
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

>>>>>>> Hi Andreas,

>>>>>>> in our network, we handle this as follows:-

>>>>>>> 1) we make sure that the PBX is marking the packets with the DSCP tags
>>>>>>> correctly.

>>>>>>> 2) we make sure that the phone/iad are marking the packets with DSCP 
>>>>>>> tags
>>>>>>> correctly.

>>>>>>> 3) we make sure that the Radios (AP & CPE) are using firmware that 
>>>>>>> respects the
>>>>>>> DSCP Tags, and provides them with appropriate priority

>>>>>>> 4) we don't do anything on our routers (in our network). if we have to, 
>>>>>>> the only
>>>>>>> thing we do on the customer router (Dmarc) is to make sure that the 
>>>>>>> dscp tags
>>>>>>> are correct.

>>>>>>> And this works very well for us.

>>>>>>> Regards.

>>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]

>>>>>>>> From: "Andreas Wiatowski" < [email protected] >
>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:39:36 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS
>>>>>>>> Hello All!

>>>>>>>> We have about 90 sites primarily with CCR’s of various flavours. We 
>>>>>>>> have yet to
>>>>>>>> implement any type of QOS for our VOIP..but we are starting to feel 
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> quality pain with a couple of our “ON NET” PBX/SIP products.

>>>>>>>> I have been reading about using mangle rules to mark connections and 
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> packets, then setting up a QUEUE tree in MT where the packet marks are
>>>>>>>> prioritized. We are fully routed with no layer 2 / bridging. I’m 
>>>>>>>> wondering if I
>>>>>>>> can accomplish the same thing by just identifying the IP of my 
>>>>>>>> Multi-Tenant PBX
>>>>>>>> box and any traffic moving to and from…and prioritizing it as 1. 
>>>>>>>> Secondly, do I
>>>>>>>> have to do this on every single router on my network?

>>>>>>>> OR Is it a better practice to IDENTIFY DCSP or TOS, mark and 
>>>>>>>> prioritize that
>>>>>>>> instead. Just looking for the best way to unify this across my network.

>>>>>>>> Anyone have examples? Many of the examples I have seen really relate 
>>>>>>>> to SOHO
>>>>>>>> type situations…. We are talking much larger here. Most of my 
>>>>>>>> transport is
>>>>>>>> 200Mbps to 10Gbps between sites.

>>>>>>>> Cheers,

>>>>>>>> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

>>>>>>>> Silo Wireless Inc.

>>>>>>>> 519-449-5656 x-600

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