i actually upgraded most of ours (well, cyber land) a few nights ago...

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jerry Head 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 1:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS


  I just looked at mine, embarrassingly old at 6.1

  On 5/12/2016 12:53 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

    It was not there in 6.19.

    From: Josh Luthman 
    Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:50 PM
    To: af@afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

    I want to say earlier than that but I don't have anything older either.


    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:49 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

      I think that was added in 6.25 or so? The oldest I have on the network is 
6.27 and it's there. 



      On 5/12/2016 9:29 AM, Jerry Head wrote:

        The Torch on my CCR does not look like that, no DSCP option at all.....

        On 5/11/2016 11:54 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

          Make sure you are using the right settings in Torch.... 

          and you can always sort on the DSCP Marks.

          You should see something like in the attached picture...


          Faisal Imtiaz
          Snappy Internet & Telecom
          7266 SW 48 Street
          Miami, FL 33155
          Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

          Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


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            From: "Andreas Wiatowski" mailto:andr...@silowireless.com
            To: af@afmug.com
            Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:46:07 AM
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS

            I’ve been trying to see DSCP marks in torch on our CRR’s… can’t 
seem to see anything in the interface.  I’m going to try a packet capture and 
view in Wireshark.



            Thanks for your input.



            Cheers,

            ______________________________

            Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

            Silo Wireless Inc.

            Email  andr...@silowireless.com

            19 Sage Court

            Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

            Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
+1.866.727.4138



            From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
            Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:48 AM
            To: af@afmug.com
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS



            Andreas,



            Yes,  here is the logic....



            PBX should mark packets correctly  (RTP packets as well as SIP 
signaling... for packets going towards to the CPE).

            Phone CPE should mark packets correctly... (for packets going to 
the PBX)



            Routers typically are not constrained on their pipes, so traffic 
flows well.

            Unless you are using some sort of queues to restrict traffic 
flow.... then you have to make sure that dscp/qos marked traffic flows with 
priority.



            Most radio's will respect DSCP/QoS  marks and allocate priority 
accordingly... (check with your radio mfg / firmware version, config etc).



            BTW you can easily see the DSCP/QoS marks if you use TORCH on the 
MT, it is real time.... :)



            Regards





            Faisal Imtiaz
            Snappy Internet & Telecom
            7266 SW 48 Street
            Miami, FL 33155
            Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

            Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net




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              From: "Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com>
              To: af@afmug.com
              Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:17:03 AM
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS

              Faisal,



              So the packets should still contain DSCP tags regardless of 
layer2 or layer3?



              Sounds like I will need to do some packet captures.



              Cheers,

              ______________________________

              Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

              Silo Wireless Inc.

              Email  andr...@silowireless.com

              19 Sage Court

              Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

              Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
+1.866.727.4138



              From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
              Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:35 AM
              To: af@afmug.com
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS



              Hi Andreas,



              in our network, we handle this as follows:-



              1) we make sure that the PBX is marking the packets with the DSCP 
tags correctly.

              2) we make sure that the phone/iad are marking the packets with 
DSCP tags correctly.

              3) we make sure that the Radios (AP & CPE) are using firmware 
that respects the DSCP Tags, and provides them with appropriate priority

              4) we don't do anything on our routers (in our network). if we 
have to, the only thing we do on the customer router (Dmarc) is to  make sure 
that the dscp tags are correct.



              And this works very well for us.





              Regards. 



              Faisal Imtiaz
              Snappy Internet & Telecom
              7266 SW 48 Street
              Miami, FL 33155
              Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

              Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net




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                From: "Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com>
                To: af@afmug.com
                Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:39:36 AM
                Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS

                Hello All!



                We have about 90 sites primarily with CCR’s of various 
flavours.  We have yet to implement any type of QOS for our VOIP..but we are 
starting to feel some quality pain with a couple of our “ON NET” PBX/SIP 
products.



                I have been reading about using mangle rules to mark 
connections and then packets, then setting up a QUEUE tree in MT where the 
packet marks are prioritized.  We are fully routed with no layer 2 / bridging.  
I’m wondering if I can accomplish the same thing by just identifying the IP of 
my Multi-Tenant PBX box and any traffic moving to and from…and prioritizing it 
as 1.  Secondly, do I have to do this on every single router on my network? 



                OR Is it a better practice to IDENTIFY DCSP or TOS, mark and 
prioritize that instead.  Just looking for the best way to unify this across my 
network. 



                Anyone have examples?  Many of the examples I have seen really 
relate to SOHO type situations…. We are talking much larger here.  Most of my 
transport is 200Mbps to 10Gbps between sites.



                Cheers,






                Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

                Silo Wireless Inc.

                519-449-5656 x-600
















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