i actually upgraded most of ours (well, cyber land) a few nights ago... ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Head To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS
I just looked at mine, embarrassingly old at 6.1 On 5/12/2016 12:53 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: It was not there in 6.19. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS I want to say earlier than that but I don't have anything older either. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:49 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: I think that was added in 6.25 or so? The oldest I have on the network is 6.27 and it's there. On 5/12/2016 9:29 AM, Jerry Head wrote: The Torch on my CCR does not look like that, no DSCP option at all..... On 5/11/2016 11:54 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Make sure you are using the right settings in Torch.... and you can always sort on the DSCP Marks. You should see something like in the attached picture... Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andreas Wiatowski" mailto:andr...@silowireless.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:46:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS I’ve been trying to see DSCP marks in torch on our CRR’s… can’t seem to see anything in the interface. I’m going to try a packet capture and view in Wireshark. Thanks for your input. Cheers, ______________________________ Andreas Wiatowski | CEO Silo Wireless Inc. Email andr...@silowireless.com 19 Sage Court Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA) Tel +1.519.449.5656 Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free +1.866.727.4138 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS Andreas, Yes, here is the logic.... PBX should mark packets correctly (RTP packets as well as SIP signaling... for packets going towards to the CPE). Phone CPE should mark packets correctly... (for packets going to the PBX) Routers typically are not constrained on their pipes, so traffic flows well. Unless you are using some sort of queues to restrict traffic flow.... then you have to make sure that dscp/qos marked traffic flows with priority. Most radio's will respect DSCP/QoS marks and allocate priority accordingly... (check with your radio mfg / firmware version, config etc). BTW you can easily see the DSCP/QoS marks if you use TORCH on the MT, it is real time.... :) Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:17:03 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS Faisal, So the packets should still contain DSCP tags regardless of layer2 or layer3? Sounds like I will need to do some packet captures. Cheers, ______________________________ Andreas Wiatowski | CEO Silo Wireless Inc. Email andr...@silowireless.com 19 Sage Court Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA) Tel +1.519.449.5656 Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free +1.866.727.4138 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS Hi Andreas, in our network, we handle this as follows:- 1) we make sure that the PBX is marking the packets with the DSCP tags correctly. 2) we make sure that the phone/iad are marking the packets with DSCP tags correctly. 3) we make sure that the Radios (AP & CPE) are using firmware that respects the DSCP Tags, and provides them with appropriate priority 4) we don't do anything on our routers (in our network). if we have to, the only thing we do on the customer router (Dmarc) is to make sure that the dscp tags are correct. And this works very well for us. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:39:36 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS Hello All! We have about 90 sites primarily with CCR’s of various flavours. We have yet to implement any type of QOS for our VOIP..but we are starting to feel some quality pain with a couple of our “ON NET” PBX/SIP products. I have been reading about using mangle rules to mark connections and then packets, then setting up a QUEUE tree in MT where the packet marks are prioritized. We are fully routed with no layer 2 / bridging. I’m wondering if I can accomplish the same thing by just identifying the IP of my Multi-Tenant PBX box and any traffic moving to and from…and prioritizing it as 1. Secondly, do I have to do this on every single router on my network? OR Is it a better practice to IDENTIFY DCSP or TOS, mark and prioritize that instead. Just looking for the best way to unify this across my network. Anyone have examples? Many of the examples I have seen really relate to SOHO type situations…. We are talking much larger here. Most of my transport is 200Mbps to 10Gbps between sites. Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 519-449-5656 x-600