FYI, Electrical Code (NECA) and most datacenters require the power not to be 
loaded beyond 80% of breaker capacity... i.e. 16amp draw on a 20amp circuit. 

Additionally, one also has to have head room on the power circuit to deal with 
start up draw (current rush). It's not pretty when you have a crap load of 
servers starting up all together 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

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> From: "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 7:50:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

> How does a 44U cabinet need 208V 60A for storage arrays?

> In a 4U chassis the max hard drives (front and rear) is about 60 x 3.5"...

> Say each drive is 7.5W TDP, that's 450W of drives. Add another 200W for
> controller/motherboard and fans. 650W in 4U.

> 44 / 4 = 11

> Multply by 650

> 7150W

> More realistically with a normal amount of drives (like 40 per 4U) a single 
> 208
> 30A is sufficient,

> 208 x 30 = 6240W

> Run at max 0.85 load on the circuit, so

> 6240 x 0.85 = 5304W

> In a really dense 2.5" environment all of the above is of course invalid, you
> could probably need up to 7900W per cabinet
> Then there's 52U cabinets as well...
> On May 13, 2016 6:16 PM, "Paul Stewart" < [email protected] > wrote:

>> Yup … general trends on new data centers are pushing those temperatures 
>> higher
>> for efficiency but also with better designs ..

>> One of our data centers runs at 78F and have no issues – each cabinet is
>> standard 208V 30A as you mention but can go per cabinet much higher if needed
>> (ie. 208V 60A for storage arrays)

>> From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
>> Sent: May 11, 2016 5:15 PM

>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

>> There have been some fairly large data set studies done shown that air intake
>> temperature for huge numbers of servers, at 77-78F does not correlate with a
>> statistically significant rate of failure.

>> http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2008/09/18/intel-servers-do-fine-with-outside-air/

>> http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/03/23/too-hot-for-humans-but-google-servers-keep-humming/

>> how/what you do for cooling is definitely dependent on the load. Designing a
>> colo facility to use a full 208V 30A circuit per cabinet (5.5kW) in a 
>> hot/cold
>> air separated configuration is very different than 'normal' older facilities
>> that are one large open room.

>> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Ken Hohhof < [email protected] > wrote:

>>> I’m not sure you can answer the question without knowing the max heat load 
>>> per
>>> cabinet and how you manage airflow in the cabinets.

>>> AFAIK it used to be standard practice to keep data centers as cold as 
>>> possible
>>> without requiring people to wear parkas, but energy efficiency is a
>>> consideration now.

>>> From: That One Guy /sarcasm

>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 3:51 PM

>>> To: [email protected]

>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

>>> apparently 72 is the the ideal for our noc, i set our thermostat to 60 and 
>>> it
>>> always gets turned back to 72, so i just say fuck it, I wanted new gear in 
>>> the
>>> racks anyway

>>> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Larry Smith < [email protected] > wrote:
>>>> On Wed May 11 2016 15:37, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>> > Just curious what the ideal temp is for a data center. Our really nice
>>>> > building that Sprint ditched ranges from 60 to 90F (on a site monitor).

>>>> I try to keep my NOC room at about 62F, that puts many of the CPU's
>>>> at 83 to 90F. Many of the bigger places I visit will generally be 55 to 
>>>> 60F.
>>>> Loads of computers (data center type) are primarily groupings of little
>>>> heaters...

>>>> --
>>>> Larry Smith
>>>> [email protected]
>>> --

>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
>>> part
>>> of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

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