The platform will be available all the way down to 6 GHz. 

Watch the TBW videos from the shows to stay current on the platforms out there. 
The Trango interview is three months old now. :-) 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 6:05:46 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi 



I very much doubt that it's intended as OC-48 capacity SONET/SDH transport... 
Based on previous experience with the higher end Bridgewave products (1Gbps 
bridges) which have SFP ports, they do have a software/firmware option on the 
same platform to enable OC-3 and OC-12 functionality but very few carriers 
ordered the option. As described by Bridgewave sales a tiny fraction like 1-2% 
of units sold or less. If people are buying PTP microwave gear in 2016 for 
short range use (24 GHz) it's all Ethernet. 





On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 3:50 AM, Faisal Imtiaz < [email protected] > 
wrote: 





FWIW, 2.5g optics came from the TDM world, typically used for OC-48 ports, and 
yes all of the major router platforms support it (not necessarily under 
ethernet). Then because of this, there were a lot of 'waves' fiber channels 
available, as in LH transport, for 2.5g. Today due to cost, ROI and popularity 
2.5g is fading into the background in favor of SFP+. 


Getting back to, arm chair quarterbacking the Trango product, I can think of a 
couple of reasons why they might have choosen 2.5g SFP module slot, considinger 
1G/2.5G modules use the same Slot, chips etc, and SFP+ are not necessarily 
1G/10G , also realizing their background with TDM it is quite possible that 
this product has a shared heritage with another of their TDM radio, or at some 
point in time (it may possibly be even now) it was intended as wireless OC48 
transport. 


:) 


Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] 




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From: "Eric Kuhnke" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 9:49:53 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi 




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Yeah, sure, if your design goal is to make your L3 backbone harder to 
troubleshoot and more failure prone in chains of non-redundant devices. I 
suppose I could put a 48 port 1000BaseT switch in front of each router and put 
the microwave PTP linked OSPF /30 BB interfaces each on their own vlan, with 
one 10GbE from router to switch, but I'd be silly to do so. 
On Jun 13, 2016 6:26 PM, "Josh Baird" < [email protected] > wrote: 



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There -could- be a router doing L3 behind the switch. It's not that uncommon, 
right? 



On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke < [email protected] > wrote: 

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Switch? If people do layer 2 over $6,000+ microwave for backbone links between 
two POPs, that is a really bad idea in my opinion. WISPs love to build layer 2 
clusterfucks because a lot of small ones start with basically no OSPF or BGP 
knowledge. 
Show me a real router platform that is in common use that supports 2.5 Gbps SFP 
(not SFP+ on a rate limited port). 

On Jun 11, 2016 10:29 AM, "Jon Auer" < [email protected] > wrote: 


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Adtran NetVanta 1544 Ethernet switches (24xGigE, 4xSFP) have been 2.5G capable 
since 2009. 


On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke < [email protected] > wrote: 

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There are such things as 2.5 Gbps SFPs used for fiber channel storage array 
applications (example: Cisco MDS9000) but you will not see them used in 
ethernet speaking routers/switches. 





On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Erich Kaiser < [email protected] > 
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Check with John, but I thought he said something about a 2.5Gbps SFP, not sure 
why they did not go 10G.... 














Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower 
[email protected] 
Office: 630-621-4804 
Cell: 630-777-9291 


On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Cassidy B. Larson < [email protected] > wrote: 

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So I’m checking out the new Trango StrataPro data sheets… The Xi model appears 
to do 4Gbps full-duplex.. but no 10G SFP+.. So I’d have to use all three SFPs, 
and one copper gig to get it? 

Other notes: it appears they’re keying it up.. so you get to pay extra to 
unlock capacity to 1100Mbps and again to unlock max capacity to 2200Mbps. 
Oh and if you want AES-256, you get to pay again. The 1MB packet buffer.. seems 
low. 

Anybody else have any thoughts? Anybody got one yet? 

-c 

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