Yep they have had a few hiccups, but overall very happy with them. As I said, "Every company is going to have some issue, but it seems like Cogent continuously gets a bad wrap." This is also why we try to offload most major content via peering exchanges instead of using transit provider to get to it.
In my 15 years as a WISP, I had probably around 7 different upstreams, each had its own caveat. This is getting off topic but a large industry pressing issue is Fiber Cuts... Since building the Fusion network the last year and a half, and now being national in the US, we have learned a lot about fiber cuts. Anything is possible. Is it me or are the contractors more careless than ever, or maybe it is the locator services? Texas seems to have the worst track record so far. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > The number of large outages Telia has had in the US in the past few months > is staggering. > > They are trying really hard to get business right now though, and their > price reflects it. > On Jul 2, 2016 8:40 AM, "Erich Kaiser" <er...@northcentraltower.com> > wrote: > >> I think all the negativity speaks for itself LOL. When running my WISP, >> I had them for a year, and it sucked. The congestion in CHI was terrible. >> Now I am not sure that is a problem in CHI any longer, but that was my >> experience 3 years ago. On the Fusion network we use Telia as our primary >> Full route provider, we pop out multiple DIAs from them. We have a really >> good relationship with them and can talk to decision makers in the US. You >> don't get the "Upper management is not going to do it" scenario, I have >> heard that line from Cogent to many times. They do have persistent sales >> people, I think they contact me once a month. Every company is going to >> have some issue, but it seems like Cogent continuously gets a bad wrap. >> >> Erich Kaiser >> North Central Tower >> er...@northcentraltower.com >> Office: 630-621-4804 >> Cell: 630-777-9291 >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >>> I think you need some BGP tweaks to better take advantage of Cogent, >>> given the scale of their network. >>> >>> http://bgp.he.net/report/peers >>> http://as-rank.caida.org/ >>> http://research.dyn.com/2016/04/a-bakers-dozen-2015-edition/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Saturday, July 2, 2016 7:23:50 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cogent >>> >>> That number of directly connected customers is dropping … we used to buy >>> transit from them a number of years back – a lot of issues with routing in >>> different regions, mainly in the US … then we dropped their transit and >>> peered with them on PNI’s. The traffic (which is only their on-net traffic >>> to be specific) hasn’t changed much in last couple of years, I think it’s >>> actually dropped some – but regardless it accounts for only 3% of our >>> traffic in total …. >>> >>> >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter Kranz >>> *Sent:* July 2, 2016 2:04 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cogent >>> >>> >>> >>> Cogent is great as long as you have another peer to balance out >>> “issues”. They have a shitload of the internet as directly connected >>> customers. >>> >>> >>> >>> -PK >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >>> *Sent:* Friday, July 01, 2016 6:44 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cogent >>> >>> >>> >>> Location does make a big difference. I would in no way use them for a >>> single upstream. For one, Cogent doesn't have the entire IPv6 Internet. >>> They are great in a mix, especially if you have a route management platform >>> or take only customer routes. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png] >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[image: >>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png] >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[image: >>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png] >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[image: >>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png] >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png] >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[image: >>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png] >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[image: >>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png] >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png] >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[image: >>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Friday, July 1, 2016 5:52:04 PM >>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cogent >>> >>> Does anyone have experience with Cogent as a primary upstream? Good, >>> bad, ugly? I assume the service location makes some difference as well. >>> >>> >>> >>> -Jason >>> >>> >>> >>> >>
