I am regularly reminded (usually by looking in the mirror) that if the people followed the commands of the cops, they'd probably be alive now. i mean, except for maybe the one guy who did not speak clearly. usually when i watch one of these videos they're struggling or trying to get away or fighting back....
i mean i don't like taking "commands" as much as the next guy but as few a runins with the cops as i've had, i'd prefer just to take the order/request and sit down and shut up. my worst experience with a cop was on sept 12 2001. i changed lanes and got pulled over. i guess they thought that was suspicious. i guess we were all a little on edge. ----- Original Message ----- From: That One Guy /sarcasm To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Philosophical question - WRT Dallas well yeah, thats called a peaceful surrender On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 10:29 PM, Jay Weekley <[email protected]> wrote: Well, if the suspect drops his gun and walks away with his hands up then the "death sentence" should be revoked. . Brandon Yuchasz wrote: We discussed this a little while driving from install to install on Friday. Once lethal force is authorized / warranted is there really much difference between an officer waiting an hour and putting a bullet through his head when he gets a chance and the police blowing him up? Dead is dead once you decided dead is an option as soon as its possible its all semantics after that. At least that's where we ended up when discussing it. Best regards, Brandon Yuchasz GogebicRange.net www.gogebicrange.net -----Original Message----- From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 9:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Philosophical question - WRT Dallas A motivated individual can run 200 feet in 8 or 9 seconds. If he's wearing some kind of body armor he can possibly get further before being brought down. Add some kind of shrapnel to the explosives and now you've got a lot of projectiles flying toward the officers that were previously shooting at the bad guy. Robert Andrews wrote: He said he had IED's planted and an unknown detonation ability... On 07/09/2016 08:06 AM, Bill Prince wrote: I don't know the whole story, nor does anyone else on this list. My impression was that the guy wasn't really talking, and he'd already shot a dozen officers (at least 3 or 4 fatally). At that point, I feel that any means necessary to prevent more damage. Call it the nuclear option if you will. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 7/9/2016 7:40 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Why blow up a perp? Why not keep talking? Better to have him caged for the rest of his life IMHO. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
