From: George Skorup 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 7:05 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences

Maybe if all radios had SFP slots and DC power inputs.

/Mike Hammett

........ducking


On 8/5/2016 6:28 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

  I've never seen a level of religion in IT equivalent to the cable religion on 
this list. It's kinda nuts.


  On Aug 5, 2016 6:13 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:

    That's the 7919a and equivalent. Good cable, just a PITA. And expensive. 
The foil tears easily. I like everything about the Shireen 1042 for tower 
cable. Larger tinned stranded drain wire would be nice, but meh. The foil is 
more than heavy enough and isn't brittle like the Belden/Best-Tronics stuff.


    On 8/5/2016 2:56 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

      Have you tried the Shireen DC-1042?  It’s similar to Belden, but the foil 
isn’t bonded to the jacket so you can actually fold it back.  It has the dry 
gel impregnated tape instead of the clear mylar in the Belden.  Only thing I 
miss maybe is the stranded drain wire.  I forget which Belden version has that, 
we used to buy both 1300a and 7919a, I think maybe it was the 7919a that had 
the stranded drain wire.

      The Shireen pullboxes work pretty nice.

      From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
      Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:21 PM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences

      thats how the belden is, soft sheath is more durable. I love coming 
across it. the apex is prone to pinholing and kinking

      On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

        I don’t buy Commscope 5NF4 anymore because the installers won’t use it 
because they hate the goo.  They do have to admit however when they go to a 10 
year old install that it stands up to the weather really, really well.


        From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
        Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:10 PM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences

        if i was in charge, we never would have gone away from the belden on 
the residential outdoor. apex 9 in the winter is so stiff, the foil tears and 
the drain is like a bread tie. but at least its not green toughcable :-)

        On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Daniel White <[email protected]> wrote:

          Love you too Steve :-)



          We do sell Primus, Belden, and Shireen as well if you would rather 
use one of those cables.



          Daniel White

          Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

          ConVergence Technologies

          Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

          [email protected]



          From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of That One Guy 
/sarcasm
          Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:54 PM
          To: [email protected]
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences



          belden something or other was the greatest

          but these mopes here where i work like apex 9, I think its utter shit 
with its ultrathin foil and brittle copper







          On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:44 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> 
wrote:

            Shireen DC-1021



            On 8/4/2016 11:08 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:

              I guess it's time for the regular survey on cable preferences for 
residential installs.  Of course looking for shielded Cat5 and preferably pays 
out of a box.









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