I don't know, but I agree.  Next to no rain in June, then July and BAM!

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: George Skorup 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 6:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down


  I started hearing more and more thunder to the south (from home about 15 
miles away). Alarms started going nuts. Whole tower down? WTF! Sure enough, 
looking at the radar showed an orange/red-ish blob over the site.

  I want to say I've seen this before. It was raining for 4-5 hours straight so 
the ground was very saturated. Like a pond saturated. Perhaps that acts as some 
kind of barrier and the lightning seeks structures and utility poles more 
often. All I know is when we get good rains in the spring and the soil is 
fairly wet throughout the summer, we have a lot less damage to gear on towers. 
Very dry and very wet soil seems to be bad. Maybe some dielectric effect. Those 
are my theories anyway.


  On 8/13/2016 6:04 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

    This lightning storm was an oddly destructive one.  I had what appeared to 
be a fried PoE injector at a customer's house - the power supply and RB260GS 
were both OK, but the customer's router had a fried WAN port as well (fiber 
customer).  I'm going to do some testing on the PoE injector to see if that was 
the problem - it did smell a bit burnt though.


    On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Jason McKemie 
<[email protected]> wrote:

      GIGE-APC on the Mimosa.  I don't have anything SS wise up-top.  I'm a bit 
torn on whether or not that does any good, plus manufacturers don't like 
recommending anything. 


      On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 5:55 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote:

        The surge suppressors we have at that site are L-com/Hyperlinks. A 
couple were blown top and bottom. Another radio was only the top and another 
only the bottom. The 900 AP board wasn't burned up, but dead. Lost that port on 
the MikroTik. Both SS's on that were dead. I'm going to rebuild everything at 
that site and use GIGE-APCs at least at the bottom.

        What SS did you have on the Mimosa?


        On 8/13/2016 5:47 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

          Yeah, I had a Ubiquiti Rocket and some nanobridges on the same tower, 
albeit lower, that didn't skip a beat.  I go to all of the trouble of running 
dedicated power and optical, only to have some cheap Ubiquiti stuff outlive it 
- makes you wonder.  The surge on the Mimosa went through the SS and knocked 
out a port on my CCR - guess that will have to be replaced as well.


          On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 5:43 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> 
wrote:

            Had a 5.7 Cyclone omni and a Antel 900 omni. So we flew the Phantom 
up first to see if those antennas were vaporized. Surprisingly they were still 
there. The Cyclone still worked, but the timing port was dead. Power port 
timing died on it last year. 450 sectors, AF24 and a Force200 were perfectly 
fine. Some stuff and not others, I don't get it. It killed the inverter in the 
APC UPS. No doubt it came in on the utility after discovering that. And then 
all of the tripped breakers after that. Yeah, that'll be the next tower to get 
a DC UPS. And a whole panel surge suppressor. 


            On 8/13/2016 5:28 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

              I lost a SIAE radio as well as a Mimosa A5 - both were properly 
grounded, the SIAE was optical with dedicated power wires as well.  Also had a 
couple customer's routers get fried.  Overall, not a fun day.  I would rather 
be at Lake Shelbyville...










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