This is not a WISP that competes with me in any way...

It's actually a family member's new last mile connection, where the bill
looks like:

NRC
$several hundred dollars - CPE radio
$165 - new customer one time installation fee
$80 router purchase

MRC
$85 monthly for a reasonably high quota service

I think that the price disparity between the actual market value of the
router ($11 to $15 on ebay with free shipping included in the price) and
what they sold it for is so wide that it's just *wrong*.

I can see buying a $75 basic 802.11ac router and selling it for $100, or
even $110...  But not this.


On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Trey Scarborough <[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree if they are selling the router along with installing it for $80
> and they are not selling it as a new router I don't see the problem. Its a
> $10 plus say $10 for shipping and $60 to install it. If that was geek squad
> the bill would probably come out to $300...
>
> I agree if this is a competitor just sell a better faster router for less
> with install.
>
> On 8/22/2016 8:07 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
>> If this is your competition, I encourage you to forget about it. Nothing
>> productive will come of it.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016, 7:33 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     That doesn't really answer the questions though.  Sounds like the
>>     second one kinda...
>>
>>     Josh Luthman
>>     Office: 937-552-2340
>>     Direct: 937-552-2343
>>     1100 Wayne St
>>     Suite 1337
>>     Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>     On Aug 22, 2016 7:47 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>         A CPE radio was installed and aimed, ubnt PoE injector put in
>>         place, and the router connected to the LAN side of the PoE...
>>
>>         The CPE radio installation was its own installation service
>>         charge and equipment fee separate from the $80 line item for the
>>         router.
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Josh Luthman
>>         <[email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>             If it's sold as new?  That's wrong.
>>
>>             If it's sold as a service (go to house, install router,
>>             leave)?  That's fine.
>>
>>             If it's sold as a used product?  That's fine.
>>
>>
>>             Josh Luthman
>>             Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>             Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>             1100 Wayne St
>>             Suite 1337
>>             Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>             On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke
>>             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Many WISPs rent routers or sell home wifi routers to
>>                 their customers.
>>
>>                 Some routers are used pulls from other customers, get
>>                 factory defaulted and configured for new customers.
>>
>>                 Nothing wrong with this.
>>
>>                 If you saw a WISP that was taking used routers from
>>                 customer pulls and re-selling them to another customer
>>                 at $80/piece, and that router was this exact model:
>>
>>                 http://www.ebay.com/itm/NETGEAR-WNR1000-WIRELESS-N-N150-
>> WIRELESS-ROUTER-RANGEMAX-4-PORT-SWITCH-/171392676852?hash
>> =item27e7ccb3f4:g:D8sAAOSwKPNTzDRY
>>
>>                 Would you consider it to be ethically questionable? I
>>                 could not in good conscience sell such a feeble,
>>                 obsolete $10 router for $80.
>>
>>
>>                 This is not a 'rented' router, this was an actual
>>                 purchase line item on a customer invoice.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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