In the land of moose, maple syrup and prime ministers who aren't afraid to
choke out a protestor [1], my wife and I pay $130 CAD together monthly for
health insurance...  Which covers pretty much everything.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawinigan_Handshake



On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> You better stay away from the medical industry.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Aug 22, 2016 10:01 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> This is not a WISP that competes with me in any way...
>>
>> It's actually a family member's new last mile connection, where the bill
>> looks like:
>>
>> NRC
>> $several hundred dollars - CPE radio
>> $165 - new customer one time installation fee
>> $80 router purchase
>>
>> MRC
>> $85 monthly for a reasonably high quota service
>>
>> I think that the price disparity between the actual market value of the
>> router ($11 to $15 on ebay with free shipping included in the price) and
>> what they sold it for is so wide that it's just *wrong*.
>>
>> I can see buying a $75 basic 802.11ac router and selling it for $100, or
>> even $110...  But not this.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Trey Scarborough <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree if they are selling the router along with installing it for $80
>>> and they are not selling it as a new router I don't see the problem. Its a
>>> $10 plus say $10 for shipping and $60 to install it. If that was geek squad
>>> the bill would probably come out to $300...
>>>
>>> I agree if this is a competitor just sell a better faster router for
>>> less with install.
>>>
>>> On 8/22/2016 8:07 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>
>>>> If this is your competition, I encourage you to forget about it. Nothing
>>>> productive will come of it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016, 7:33 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     That doesn't really answer the questions though.  Sounds like the
>>>>     second one kinda...
>>>>
>>>>     Josh Luthman
>>>>     Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>     Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>     1100 Wayne St
>>>>     Suite 1337
>>>>     Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On Aug 22, 2016 7:47 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]
>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         A CPE radio was installed and aimed, ubnt PoE injector put in
>>>>         place, and the router connected to the LAN side of the PoE...
>>>>
>>>>         The CPE radio installation was its own installation service
>>>>         charge and equipment fee separate from the $80 line item for the
>>>>         router.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>         <[email protected]
>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             If it's sold as new?  That's wrong.
>>>>
>>>>             If it's sold as a service (go to house, install router,
>>>>             leave)?  That's fine.
>>>>
>>>>             If it's sold as a used product?  That's fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             Josh Luthman
>>>>             Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>>             Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>>             1100 Wayne St
>>>>             Suite 1337
>>>>             Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>             On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke
>>>>             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                 Many WISPs rent routers or sell home wifi routers to
>>>>                 their customers.
>>>>
>>>>                 Some routers are used pulls from other customers, get
>>>>                 factory defaulted and configured for new customers.
>>>>
>>>>                 Nothing wrong with this.
>>>>
>>>>                 If you saw a WISP that was taking used routers from
>>>>                 customer pulls and re-selling them to another customer
>>>>                 at $80/piece, and that router was this exact model:
>>>>
>>>>                 http://www.ebay.com/itm/NETGEA
>>>> R-WNR1000-WIRELESS-N-N150-WIRELESS-ROUTER-RANGEMAX-4-PORT-SW
>>>> ITCH-/171392676852?hash=item27e7ccb3f4:g:D8sAAOSwKPNTzDRY
>>>>
>>>>                 Would you consider it to be ethically questionable? I
>>>>                 could not in good conscience sell such a feeble,
>>>>                 obsolete $10 router for $80.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 This is not a 'rented' router, this was an actual
>>>>                 purchase line item on a customer invoice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

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