There is a guy on Youtube testing one of those saltwater batteries and I thought he was running one in sub zero temps but I could be wrong. Also for WISP or Telecom applications for off-grid applications the slow discharge/recharge may not be an issue as long as your using Solar with Wind for the sites.
On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 4:25 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < [email protected]> wrote: > The "new again" technology which seems most appropriate for solar is > nickel iron. > > See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel%E2%80%93iron_battery > > There are a few vendors which are making these new at this point... > previously most of them in use were refurbished cells from when they were > more popular. > > On Oct 1, 2016 2:09 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> That company that has the salt water batteries said they wanna cut the >> cost on them in half over the next 5 years. Then that's really going to get >> interesting... Read somewhere the lifespan was 20 years on them and also >> they are not affected by low temperatures once fully discharged. >> >> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Robert Andrews <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> According to the news around here, lead acid batteries are the most >>> recycled device on the planet... They are just about to open a new >>> "green" recycling plant here that doesn't generate all the bad gasses that >>> a normal plant does when heating the mess to 1300 degrees to melt it all >>> apart.. So we have been given the 30 second crash news education on lead >>> acid batteries for the last week... >>> >>> On 10/01/2016 11:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> >>>> I would think lead-acid batteries are almost 100% recyclable, I’m not >>>> sure about Li-Ion. I try to avoid Chinese made AGM batteries because of >>>> their poor track record on the environment, but it’s hard to avoid them >>>> entirely. >>>> >>>> Maybe I’m naïve, and when I take used batteries to the battery dealer >>>> for recycling, they toss them in the dumpster and they are hauled to the >>>> landfill. But I would think at least the lead would be worth enough to >>>> recover. >>>> >>>> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 1, 2016 1:43 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar costs dropping >>>> >>>> That seems expensive for the AH. They sound like they recover better >>>> from deep discharge. The last time I bought 75AH batteries they were >>>> ~$200 each. so for somewhere less than half the money you get close to >>>> the same AH and they added bonus of destroying the planet. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 12:57 PM Kurt Fankhauser >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've been seriously looking at solar for off grid, biggest problem >>>> was the batteries but then I found these salt water batteries that >>>> seem to be the solution to all the problems associated with battery >>>> systems, they have a 24v version for a 2.2Kwh cell that I was going >>>> to wire up to an APC-XL ups and see what happened.... >>>> >>>> https://www.altestore.com/store/deep-cycle-batteries/saltwat >>>> er-batteries/aquion-energy-saltwater-batteries-p40483/?gclid >>>> =CjwKEAjwvb2_BRCb_s7Yo7_ZlHASJABz6L0jfIx1iUFerslueuwJHCmFBqR >>>> fykUmLVgmbE3Ho39nZRoCgpXw_wcB#AQU24S-83 >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Rory Conaway < >>>> [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> https://electrek.co/2016/09/26/solar-power-cost-down-25-in-f >>>> ive-months-theres-no-reason-why-the-cost-of-solar-will-ever- >>>> increase-again/ >>>> >>>> And wait until Peroksvite starts selling…. >>>> >>>> Thought you might like that Chuck. >>>> >>>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •**CEO* >>>> >>>> *4226 S. 37^th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040* >>>> >>>> *602-426-0542 <tel:602-426-0542>* >>>> >>>> *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>* >>>> >>>> *www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>* >>>> >>>> ** >>>> >>>> “The other teams could make trouble for us if they win.” — Yogi >>>> Berra >>>> >>>> >>
