Psh. Everyone knows the batteries were a sham and the true power source was mustaches and bowler hats.
Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 12:24 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar costs dropping That is what powered the first production electric cars. [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Thomas_Parker_Electric_car.jpg] From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 12:23 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar costs dropping Iron edison is the brand you see quite a bit at solar shows On Oct 2, 2016 9:45 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: There used to be a “NiFe” battery company. Had some in central offices years ago. Pretty robust units. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 2:25 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar costs dropping The "new again" technology which seems most appropriate for solar is nickel iron. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel%E2%80%93iron_battery There are a few vendors which are making these new at this point... previously most of them in use were refurbished cells from when they were more popular. On Oct 1, 2016 2:09 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com<mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote: That company that has the salt water batteries said they wanna cut the cost on them in half over the next 5 years. Then that's really going to get interesting... Read somewhere the lifespan was 20 years on them and also they are not affected by low temperatures once fully discharged. On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote: According to the news around here, lead acid batteries are the most recycled device on the planet... They are just about to open a new "green" recycling plant here that doesn't generate all the bad gasses that a normal plant does when heating the mess to 1300 degrees to melt it all apart.. So we have been given the 30 second crash news education on lead acid batteries for the last week... On 10/01/2016 11:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I would think lead-acid batteries are almost 100% recyclable, I’m not sure about Li-Ion. I try to avoid Chinese made AGM batteries because of their poor track record on the environment, but it’s hard to avoid them entirely. Maybe I’m naïve, and when I take used batteries to the battery dealer for recycling, they toss them in the dumpster and they are hauled to the landfill. But I would think at least the lead would be worth enough to recover. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman *Sent:* Saturday, October 1, 2016 1:43 PM *To:* af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar costs dropping That seems expensive for the AH. They sound like they recover better from deep discharge. The last time I bought 75AH batteries they were ~$200 each. so for somewhere less than half the money you get close to the same AH and they added bonus of destroying the planet. On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 12:57 PM Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com <mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com<mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com%20%3cmailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>>> wrote: I've been seriously looking at solar for off grid, biggest problem was the batteries but then I found these salt water batteries that seem to be the solution to all the problems associated with battery systems, they have a 24v version for a 2.2Kwh cell that I was going to wire up to an APC-XL ups and see what happened.... https://www.altestore.com/store/deep-cycle-batteries/saltwater-batteries/aquion-energy-saltwater-batteries-p40483/?gclid=CjwKEAjwvb2_BRCb_s7Yo7_ZlHASJABz6L0jfIx1iUFerslueuwJHCmFBqRfykUmLVgmbE3Ho39nZRoCgpXw_wcB#AQU24S-83 On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net%0b %20%3cmailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>> wrote: https://electrek.co/2016/09/26/solar-power-cost-down-25-in-five-months-theres-no-reason-why-the-cost-of-solar-will-ever-increase-again/ And wait until Peroksvite starts selling…. Thought you might like that Chuck. *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •**CEO* *4226 S. 37^th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040* *602-426-0542<tel:602-426-0542> <tel:602-426-0542<tel:602-426-0542>>* *r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:*r...@triadwireless.net> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>* *www.triadwireless.net<http://www.triadwireless.net> <http://www.triadwireless.net/>* ** “The other teams could make trouble for us if they win.” — Yogi Berra
