By that definition, Apple doesn’t make things either.
Being a “maker” isn’t what it used to be. I am old enough to remember when I was an engineer and I could walk 100 feet to the other side of the wall to the factory. Then things changed to where we would build prototypes and first production locally and later transition to building offshore. Probably today even the actual engineers are offshore, and marketing just sends them some sketches of what they want. Apple probably does maintain more control over design and production than most. A lot of the branded products we buy are just generic Chinese designs with a custom logo and paintjob. Even cars. I was speculating with my wife which of the cheaper Chevy models are just rebadged Korean or Japanese cars, I know their small van is Nissan, and I suspect the Sonic and Spark are not GM designs, I know the Aveo was Daewoo. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple But they don't actually make things. They hand some hardware specs (though I don't know how thorough) to a vendor and they make it. Other than when Google owned Motorola, they haven't actually made any phones. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:45:51 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple Yes, back to the original subject. FYI, I still get a print newspaper at home, and it had a whole separate section like 10 or 12 pages paid for by Google with the theme “Made By Google”. That cost a bunch. So they view this as a big marketing push, they now want to be known as a hardware company that makes things. (Or perhaps Things, as in Internet of Things.) It is a bit reminiscent of 1984 though. George Orwell was right, the Proles will pay to have their own Telescreens. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:03 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple Why all the anger? It's simply personal preference. Apple has a closed ecosystem. The hardware is tailored to a specific OS and vice-versa. They have full control. This is the reason Apple will always have speed and efficiency advantages. It should go without saying. Android is an OS built to work for hundreds of different hardware configurations. I find that to be very impressive that it works as well as it does. I think everyone understands the distinction between the two platforms and know what to expect. The argument and comparisons between the two is getting old. Each is a great product in their own right. To get back to the original subject line. I do agree. Google understands they can make a better product if they have more control over the hardware. I don't think anyone can dispute Google intentions in this particular case. On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Travis Johnson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: You obviously didn't read my message... my point was, in the US market, which is the "most educated, most advanced" country in the world, Apple has a 44% marketshare... almost double of the 2nd place phone. We can talk "Android" use vs IOS use, but anyone can build and GIVE AWAY an Operating System... just like starting a company that you don't have to make a profit... anyone can do that. :) Travis On 10/5/2016 7:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: You have a strong opinion, but it is poorly formed. Apple has a decent take in the US market, but that's a small percentage of the overall pie. That's slated to slide more away from Apple given current trends. 2nd quarter of this year Android was at 86.2% global smartphone share, and Apple is losing ground quarter after quarter. https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/18/gartner-androids-smartphone-marketshare-hit-86-2-in-q2/ 87.6 once more results were in: http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp You're entitled to your opinion though, by all means. On Oct 5, 2016 8:24 PM, "Travis Johnson" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Actually, Apple is the top smartphone in the US... nobody cares about the rest of the world... they have 44% marketshare in the US. You know, the country where every real Internet and tech company is located... Apple, Intel, Facebook, Instagram, Amazon, Google, etc. Take your pick of Android phone... their screen responses all suck compared to an iPhone. :) Travis On 10/5/2016 6:02 PM, Bill Prince wrote: It was not me that said that. I don't buy Apple products. Period. I would not get an Apple product if it were free. And there is good reason that most of the people on the planet use a smartphone other than theirs. And a Samsung smartphone is not real Android, so that is a piss poor comparison. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 10/5/2016 3:30 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: Some people ride a Honda, some people ride a Harley. Some people drive a Chevy, some people drive a BMW. I think it was you that even said "If the price was the same, everyone would be using an iPhone"... which I honestly believe. I have used a brand new Samsung phone with Android, and the first thing I noticed is that the screen response is not the same as an iPhone
